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Kernow 101 26th Apr 2012 07:30

EK Hold Pool (FO's)
 
Starting this thread for anyone who has received the email offer, but no course date yet. Or anyone at EK who might have some inside info, and can share some info.

Interviewed in Feb, and it seems like (bar a couple of Bus rated guys who were given CCQ courses in June) everyone from this time has been put on hold for the full course dates. EK have promised a course date in 1 to 2 weeks again! But this would be the 3rd time of promising, and it would be nice to have a little bit more info.

I am guessing that they are prioritising the remaining course slots for DEC, who seem to be being offered courses for June & July. The last FO course position I heard of being offered before this 'freeze' was August.

Or is it the availability of courses that is the problem, as they appear to outsource and thus could be renegotiating the contracts with these institutions?

If they are going to wait until the DEC positions have gone through before hiring FOs again, does anyone have an accurate idea on the DEC numbers? Last I heard was 75 positions open to offer on this round. Have they been running the interviews every week again for the DECs? (same as they were for the FO's). Or will they run the rating courses for FO & Capt side by side, and thus split the allocation of course dates each month.

Seems to me everything recruitment wise has been frozen on the FO side, no selection or PSP days since end of FEB. Seems strange considering recruitment said they would need 500+ again this year?

EK380 26th Apr 2012 08:38

Kerniw,

Hiring 120 DEC for now. Might change.

All of the planning of the near future courses will probably change due to delays in the A380 deliveries. Looks like EK will take any further 380 deliveries until a final fix is found for the wing problems. This will likely affect the whole hiring plan.

moneyhoon 26th Apr 2012 09:18

Swimming since early March. Same info as you Kernow.

bigdaviet 26th Apr 2012 10:10

'Swimming' since late march with same info as you guys

atiuta 26th Apr 2012 10:35

Were the precise words "promised" actually used?

Slow down probably due shortage of trainers, simulators and no doubt a priority on DEC's.

Kernow 101 26th Apr 2012 10:42


Were the precise words "promised" actually used?
No, those are my words.

Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining. Just looking for an avenue to share more info between others in the same position, and maybe gain some from current EK employees.

Kernow 101 26th Apr 2012 12:58


The upside of your situation is you get to enjoy the civilised* roads, civilised service, civilised behaviour and all the rest of the benefits of home for that little bit longer.
Your right, depends on where you are coming from..............currently in one of Europe's largest countries and enjoy none of the above :hmm: Except cheap wine :\

groundtoflightdeck 26th Apr 2012 13:15

The roads and infrastructure come at a cost... 40% of my gross income to tax... I'll take the heat! But would miss that winter deep freeze at -25C... You'll probably find me at the indoor ski hill in shorts and sandals...;)

jonjon 26th Apr 2012 15:54

+1

Got my interview in Dubai in late February, same couple of emails received, the last one about being sent an update "in 2/3 weeks" (thats was 4 weeks ago)

Let's wait and see although it would be nice to have a rough idea of the waiting time ahead of us

jj

EKJR 26th Apr 2012 22:00

Waiting course date
 
I was Hired in March, and received another email saying 1-2 more weeks for course date. From what I gathered the DEC are getting worked through first. From the CC that interviewed me, he said it is a nightmare, due to there high standards for DEC's.

Patiently waiting

smiler68 29th Apr 2012 21:44

Passed PSP in early february and just got an email today giving me a course start date for the bus in late august. Hooray:ok:

Kernow 101 30th Apr 2012 06:57

Congrats smiler. Was that for the full course? Or CCQ.

I just got another delay email yesterday :(

flymaybe 30th Apr 2012 07:19

Hi Kernow,

Got same as you. Did you put 777 as your preference? I did so can only assume those are full for now and thats why we are waiting. Never mind, don't mind waiting a bit longer if i get a Boeing.

Kernow 101 30th Apr 2012 07:43

Didn't really discuss preference in the interview, as they said everyone was going on Bus until after summer. I said that was fine, so I guess they put me down as Bus? (currently 737)

jonjon 30th Apr 2012 09:33

Got the same delay email yesterday.

I was there in late Feb so I guess nothing until September earliest for me.

Kernow 101 1st May 2012 20:28

Heard a rumour that EK are refusing anymore 380 deliveries until the compensation issue and current inspection cycle is addressed? (is it true there is currently a 27 day inspection after every 100 cycles?)

Tight Seat 1st May 2012 22:23

Also swimming.

Has anyone had any luck contacting HR? My emails get no reply.

It was all one big rush in Dubai " we need you now" , kind of takes the shine off with the 'wait out' emails.

ironbutt57 2nd May 2012 04:34

I do know that if you are 'bus rated, you may be awaiting their new "short conversion" course thats being formulated as we speak...hence the dunk in the pool for a bit....

Tight Seat 2nd May 2012 04:46

Ah, things change every 5 mins ! Yup A321 is my transport. Cheers for the info.

sleepless in seattle 3rd May 2012 22:38

Still waiting patiently!
 
Samo samo,

Successfully completed my PSP early March in Dubai.
Boeing widebody rated. Had two emails thus far from HR indicating their optimism to set a course date, but due to 'operational changes', this has been delayed. Last email from EK 29th April.
Haven't made any attempt to contact them. I'm sure they'll get around to letting us know when our number comes up.
Hope you get the planes you want.

EKJR 6th May 2012 10:18

I agree, and hope you do as well!

vapp125 6th May 2012 16:04

Hi all,

What is the average waiting time between selection in Dubai and final answer?

Vapp125

EKJR 6th May 2012 18:26

I knew in 2 weeks that I got the job. Still waiting course date. Interviewed Feb 28th.

Tight Seat 9th May 2012 14:05

Just pushing this thread back up the list. Has any 'swimmer' had the good news yet?

EKJR 9th May 2012 14:35

My buddy on the inside just informed me that it is due to the airbus 380, Being down for the 27 day inspections. As soon as they come up with the deal with airbus to fix the issue, They will have a better idea of when do a sign class dates. If you're in the pool you're good to go, And they are still actively recruiting pilots for further aircraft deliveries

Craggenmore 9th May 2012 15:44

330 FO's waiting for transfer to 380 that you are going to replace. So no movement for us = no movement for you..........

EKJR 9th May 2012 16:08

Yes that is my understanding that's how it works.

jonjon 9th May 2012 16:11

Hi Craggenmore,

Does it mean only 330 FOs are recruited for the foreseeable future?

I was hoping for 777 so I hope not...

Craggenmore 9th May 2012 16:26

Shared a car into work with 2 Recruiters last month - Was told all foreseeable recruitment will be for 330 FO's.

I'm guessing that DEC 's will predominantly go to 777 (note boeing experience required for DEC applications) thereby reducing 777 upgrades for current FO's that will come to the fore in a few years time.............thereby new hires needed for 330 whilst current 330 FO's transfer to 380.

White Knight 9th May 2012 16:45

Because of course the Classic 'Bus will be around for far longer than originally planned:cool:

jonjon 9th May 2012 16:48

Thanks for the quick response and information Craggenmore...
Airbus it will be then!

Craggenmore 9th May 2012 17:07

jonjon - dont be scared of the 330. Not sure how it will pan out for new hires but lots of Fo's doing around 45 hours per month. My last year averaged out at under 50/month

Fleet also keeps emailing me to take leave so if you don't initially get what you want when you bid, dont panic - you might well be offered it anyhow :ok:

Great skippers and a chilled vibe.

The only problem is that my wife is unhappy because I'm not away enough!

airbuddy 14th May 2012 13:00

hold pool
 
Hello guys,

any news for those who are swimming in the pool for quite a while, such as a couple o'months? I am wondering how long I will have to wait as well...
cheers!
AB

enthusiast 14th May 2012 15:32


Shared a car into work with 2 Recruiters last month - Was told all foreseeable recruitment will be for 330 FO's.

I'm guessing that DEC 's will predominantly go to 777 (note boeing experience required for DEC applications) thereby reducing 777 upgrades for current FO's that will come to the fore in a few years time.............thereby new hires needed for 330 whilst current 330 FO's transfer to 380.
Mr. Craggenmore,

Could I understand your mention above as EK will concentrate on hiring A330 FO for a while? and would A320 rating help me to be shortlisted for A330 FO even now as focusing on DEC? If I could know the right time to apply as a A320 FO, it will be really helpful. That's it. Thank you.

enthusiast

minwas 15th May 2012 08:17

...lalalalaaaaa
Lalalalaaaaaa
Lalalalaaaaaaa, tralalalaaaaaaa...

Swimming in the pool makes so much fun

Tight Seat 17th May 2012 13:02

Seems like the pool is getting deeper.

Reading the posts about the 380, it looks like a long wait for us. A Spanish chap I know has just had his 330 cse changed to the 777. Also heard some guys are working in the office whilst waiting for the type rating cse.

Oh well!

airbuddy 17th May 2012 13:06

How long you been in the pool?

Tight Seat 17th May 2012 13:21

End of March

Easy Ryder 17th May 2012 16:42

Tight Seat, guys are in the office because courses are overbooked to counter no shows. On occasion everyone turns up and someone volunteers to do office duties till the next course. Been like this for a long time.

Tight Seat 17th May 2012 18:36

Cheers Easy. Sorry for drawing the wrong conclusion .


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