Anyone have any reliable info or educated guess on how many of us are in the pool and how deep they might go when they start assigning classes next month? I was informed that we have to be in class before the 1 year interview date; not just assigned a class date before then. That tightens up the window quite a bit.

Well as you don't know the length, breadth or depth of the pool, what are you basing that assertion on!?

I used my "spidey senses"; hence my use of the word "guess"...

As I understand though deliveries are coming, a glut of locals are being trained up as well as other GCC license holders ahead of pool candidates. Though it's possible some guys might be selected, most are being temporarily canned and there are even candidates being slated for the selection program early next year. No shortage of applicants. I've moved on. I'd suggest you do too. Anything else could be considered a bonus. Life goes on...

Can anyone verify this information please? No further FO selection until 2014/15?!

@ Watchagonnado

when did you get your Dear John letter? where do you get your info? when did you do your assessment?

@ spider_man

it`s hard to believe that there will be no recruitment in the months to come. who the f&%$ is going to fly those planes?

Heard from a reliable source that the holding pool will start to empty out next month and that recruitment will start up again before the end of the year for FO's.

Im not in the pool by the way just heard from a source in Recruitment.
Best of luck folks.

Bit doom and gloom on here...stay positive until your required notice period will run over the twelve month period. No news is good news for now.

Holding breath
 

Unless your unemployed! But yes, it is a bit doom and gloom. It's interesting how you get such varying opinions on here. Pool is bad. Pool is good. Need loads of pilots. NO PILOTS UNTIL 2014!

Rumours are always the most prevalent during times of silence. Keep your chin up. If you really want it, stay with it and keep believing! If another door opens before hand and you aren't sure about EK, maybe you're being told something...

BluSideUp!

Just remember the the focal year 2013/14 starts Apr 1 /2013. courses are filled until Apr next year IE no hiring until 3013/14 and good old pprune has turned that into 2014 . The only thing that has changed is the experience of the application to chose from.

All courses are filled till April 2013? Thats news....

Maybe for Airbus courses, although 12 guys a Week or thereabouts being transferred to the 380 (from sept when qantas courses start) i get the feeling the 330/340 fleet will be coming up a bit short....

Boeing courses are booked up until mid Jan from what I gather.

Simple fact is lots of aircraft are coming, and I think they outnumber the amount of retirements. The latest I heard is they're not dropping the 343s (again).... So take a breath and look at things logically, not emotionally.

Well, always a surprise to see how 2 or 3 well informed guys have exactly opposite informations apparently from exactly same sources... :D

Just to correct something, the last email said AIRBUS courses were full for the financial year (till April 1st 2013) but BOEING courses to start again in late January 2013, dates to be given next month. So no, apparently not all the courses are full, just airbus.

Regarding to the above advise, yes, the unemployed guys like me are taking actions because waiting for EK could be the biggest mistake ever. Not much contract jobs out there, but some things now like THY for example. Will see how we can manage to leave a new job, probably bonded, if we get the call from EK.

Guys - I think we should try and avoid panicking! I have it from a very good source that there will be an update in the next few weeks.
I don't have the Don's inside knowledge but I'm reasonably well connected and there is nothing to suggest that any of the above stuff about no recruitment 'til 2014 is true. Everything I hear points towards courses (Boeing) starting up in the next few months. Obviously that's not concrete but its the best I have.

Hi

I know this is a F/O thread but I'm not going to start one to just check the following :

One of our pilots ( major european airline but not A380 rated ) apparently just got an offer from EK as a direct entry captain on the A380.
It does sound like Xmas in August to me but who knows.
Anyone with inside knowledge who could comment on this ? Rubbish or genuine ?

You are correct Me, the DECs are for 777 and 330 only. Why would anyone leave a command at a Major European carrier to start here on year 1 command pay? Almost harder to believe than the 380 command rumour.

The Don

ek application .updating.referees
 

Can anyone tell me how to update or change the.referee section online can't seem.to.find.where.to.change it
Thanks

Don

Is this from a well informed insider view ? I take it you work for EK ?
I honestly can't see how EK could have outsider get direct entry command on the airline's Flagship but like many, I am an agnostic.

Why would anyone leave ???? :))))) Dear Don, if you knew where this guy comes from, you wouldn't ask.

So, I should keep smiling eventhough I was sold a truck load of tosh.

Referee Section
 

I have the same problem i want to send my application for the first time but no section for Referee something knows where it must be writen ? the referee need to be from chief pilot or instructors? does somebody knows? Thank you

Anyone know the PSP selection date for the last candidates in the pool? Beginning, mid or late May?

A guy who contacted me via PM in this forum to ask for some questions regarding the EK selection process was interviewing, if I remember well, late June.
I did it in early May.
I would say that the holding pool goes from mid February until late June maybe early July.

Good luck guys.

DEC interviews are ongoing at the moment.

The Don

Update received. Broadly no change in situation. At the end of September they are going to start making offers for the 777 fleet for courses starting in Jan 2013. Numbers yet to be determined but more people in the pool than places available. No more airbus courses this year.

:D for the update
:\ for the Jan courses
:( for the limited positions

It says there are more people in the hold pool than places available before the end of the financial year, which ends at the beginning of April. Last time I checked the pool goes into June/ July? Don't sweat about it!

They don't want them. Period!

EK does not have philanthropic tendencies. They have plenty of people applying as FO and DEC.

Says who?
Don't forget that the basic costs of type rating someone..then providing accommodation are the same, as are bringing families across etc..so no saving there.
Next, how many EK sectors actually require a cruise S/O, certainly a few on the 777 and a couple on the 380, but that's about it. I think EK understand that they can attract a reasonable standard of candidate without having to resort to 250hr heros, in any case we have a bit of that already with the local cadet pilots.
Lastly, my impression is, thanks to the location of the crew rest on our fleet, the local GCAA require two current and qualified pilots upfront at all times....a requirement that an S/O is unable to fill in their eyes.

Guys can we restrict this stuff to the other many and varied threads on Emirates please? There are a great many jumpy pilots who are hoping to hear updates on this thread. Thanks.

Jungle drums say another 40ish DEC required before the end off financial year. This further reduces the number of FOs required. I am sure .HR/recruiting will update everyone once the dust settles.

The don

Thanks Don - I've been calm and collected until now, but this is just becoming a joke. Time to look at other things.

Well. I'll put it this way. Last year was a 'bad' year financially at EK; making only $500 million odd profit (can't remember the exact figure), so saving by having cheaper SOs would be literally a drop in the ocean!

Besides - would you really want to be a 1,000hr SO while a cadet with 500 hours outranks you????

And to clarify - they really "just don't want them" is from the top

Well if we can't have SOs, can we get dancing girls?

Ah yes - good to see you're thinking straight:ok:

Mate,

The non straight go Boeing! :E

Dumb question maybe...

Why more DECs and not the upgrading of current EK FOs, leading to more FO recruitment?

Mate. No argument from me here:}:}:}

EK would love to upgrade more FOs... But logistically - difficult!

Hi White Knight,

You've intrigued me - logistically difficult...!?

B&S

Well as Ex A380 says it's a lot of extra training to get upgrades from the RHS at a time when the training department is stretched to the seams! As I say, logistically difficult... I'd like to see more F/Os upgrading believe me!!!

If it's not Boeing i'm not going :}

I'll take both :E

all in good humour
 

Ex A380 don't know if you were around when the boys/gals down at your previous outfit called the certain boeing aircraft you flew, the "ferrari of the skies" :ok: