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BigGeordie 2nd Sep 2019 10:33

Pif Paf, I think it might be more of a generational then a type rating thing. Emirates are recruiting ever younger FOs and some (by no means all, be certainly some) come with a certain Millennial "attitude". (As an example, look at the trouble some of them get themselves into on social media despite being warned about the company line) They are blissfully unaware of what they don't know.

This can be seen in an even more extreme way in the cabin where experienced Pursers and Supervisors report an increasing "you can't tell me what to do" trend with the new joiners.

Short of increasing experience levels (and that will never happen), and therefore age, I don't know what the answer is.

Dropp the Pilot 2nd Sep 2019 12:50

I second that emotion.

When it began I don't know but after the last few decades sitting in the back of the sim I can say there is most certainly a trend towards candidates who are satisfied with merely a passing grade, retaining no visible interest in refining their skills. It has certainly caused me to wonder how far down that road we can go before the profession itself becomes something unrecognizable..

BigGeordie 2nd Sep 2019 18:48

Dropp, the "profession" is already turing into "just a job" for many.

Officer Kite 3rd Sep 2019 21:36

I'm pretty sure EK have 200hr cadets regularly joining onto the 777 fleet so not sure why guys from turboprops with thousands of hrs are deemed a risk. Why such anti turboprop sentiment? Back in the 60s airlines had 200hr cadets in the cockpits of 707s and 720s flying transatlantic. Those flying 737s or 320s for ryanair/easyjet are accused of buying their way into aviation and not having a clue because they've never flown 'the real stuff' (usually referring to turboprops), then those that did fly the turboprops are accused of having insufficient skills simply for the fact they are flying a tp. You can never win.

Is this how bitter some people have become? Just because someone hasn't followed the exact career path that you followed, doesn't make them inferior. If anything, pretty much any instructor I've ever had has said the bigger the aircraft the more automation is on board and the easier to operate it becomes, especially compared to an ATR or Q400, so I'd simmer down.

It wasn't a 2000hr former turboprop guy that caused the crash of the century, rather he had all the experience you guys claim is essential and heaven forbid anyone ever touch a widebody without meeting your personal past requirements :hmm:

Capn Rex Havoc 4th Sep 2019 05:51


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10561186)
I'm pretty sure EK have 200hr cadets regularly joining onto the 777 fleet so not sure why guys from turboprops with thousands of hrs are deemed a risk. Why such anti turboprop sentiment? Back in the 60s airlines had 200hr cadets in the cockpits of 707s and 720s flying transatlantic. Those flying 737s or 320s for ryanair/easyjet are accused of buying their way into aviation and not having a clue because they've never flown 'the real stuff' (usually referring to turboprops), then those that did fly the turboprops are accused of having insufficient skills simply for the fact they are flying a tp. You can never win.

Is this how bitter some people have become? Just because someone hasn't followed the exact career path that you followed, doesn't make them inferior. If anything, pretty much any instructor I've ever had has said the bigger the aircraft the more automation is on board and the easier to operate it becomes, especially compared to an ATR or Q400, so I'd simmer down.

It wasn't a 2000hr former turboprop guy that caused the crash of the century, rather he had all the experience you guys claim is essential and heaven forbid anyone ever touch a widebody without meeting your personal past requirements :hmm:


Which crash of the century are you referring to? Wasn't 521 a former cadet?

Slash787 5th Sep 2019 13:00

I din't know where to ask this question, for layovers in Milan, which hotel do the crew members stay in?

The flight from DXB - MXP - JFK, the crew gets changed in Milan or the whole crew goes to JFK?

The Dominican 5th Sep 2019 13:56


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 10561406)
Which crash of the century are you referring to? Wasn't 521 a former cadet?

Wasn't the F/O very experienced with a lot of time on the 777 and with the right background according to some of you?

A bad example actually, if anything 521 is an example of what's wrong with airline training now a days and not about the crew.

Just curious, What do you folks want to accomplish by degrading your fellow pilots?



VThokie2 5th Sep 2019 14:36


Originally Posted by Slash787 (Post 10562490)
I din't know where to ask this question, for layovers in Milan, which hotel do the crew members stay in?

The flight from DXB - MXP - JFK, the crew gets changed in Milan or the whole crew goes to JFK?

No one here (hopefully) will give you specific hotel information for the layover crews on a public forum!

VThokie2 5th Sep 2019 22:56

I stand corrected (facepalm)

Officer Kite 6th Sep 2019 09:12


Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc (Post 10561406)
Which crash of the century are you referring to? Wasn't 521 a former cadet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenerife_airport_disaster

donpizmeov 6th Sep 2019 16:04


Originally Posted by Officer Kite (Post 10563222)

​​​​Well that was obvious.

Officer Kite 6th Sep 2019 23:23


Originally Posted by donpizmeov (Post 10563515)
​​​​Well that was obvious.

Glad you found it so.

Capn Rex Havoc 7th Sep 2019 06:16

Dom [QUOTE][Wasn't the F/O very experienced with a lot of time on the 777 and with the right background according to some of you?/QUOTE]

Im sorry, but last I heard it was the Captain who was at the controls, and the fo was ex qantas therefore not a lot of time of the 777. If (if the final report is ever released) it turns out that the Captain was the handling pilot and had both paws on the control yoke on the go around - wellllll - pretty hard to blame the fo.

In the long run, I don’t want to cast dispersions on any aircrew, and I am not, for one second, denigrating the skill levels of cadets, but here is the reality - experience levels have dropped exponentially, and the industry is making do with that, the accountants are making do with that, but the long term safety of the airline is unquestionably jeopardised by the ever decreasing experience levels of new joiners and new captains.

runway07 16th Sep 2019 03:30

Hey guys, i got a reply from emirates, saying they wanna set up a 5-10 mins phone call with me. I am wondering if that's a normal practice or something with my application?

Anyone who experienced the same before? what do i expect during that phone call?

Thanks a lot for everyone's input and words !!

fatbus 16th Sep 2019 03:45

Yes it is .

runway07 16th Sep 2019 04:00

what sort of questions they are gonna ask ?

YSR1981 19th Sep 2019 17:17


Originally Posted by runway07 (Post 10570968)
Hey guys, i got a reply from emirates, saying they wanna set up a 5-10 mins phone call with me. I am wondering if that's a normal practice or something with my application?

Anyone who experienced the same before? what do i expect during that phone call?

Thanks a lot for everyone's input and words !!



When did you submit your online application

YSR1981 19th Sep 2019 17:23

I submitted my application on 13/08/2019 for the accelerated A380, six weeks and no reply, is that normal
11200 total on A320
5300 as captain

Gemma Barry 26th Sep 2019 13:31

What are the negatives in your view? we're considering the move as a family with a 5 and 7 year old

Python27 26th Sep 2019 17:16


Originally Posted by YSR1981 (Post 10573820)
I submitted my application on 13/08/2019 for the accelerated A380, six weeks and no reply, is that normal
11200 total on A320
5300 as captain

​​​​​​...another one bites the dust...

givemewings 28th Sep 2019 13:56


Originally Posted by Gemma Barry (Post 10580105)
What are the negatives in your view?

...you must be new here. . :E

Daddy Fantastic 29th Sep 2019 08:56


Originally Posted by givemewings (Post 10581560)
...you must be new here. . :E

Very new indeed!!

tonker 1st Oct 2019 19:01

Is it true EK have dropped the BMI restriction for pilots. Asking for another fat c@nt who looks exactly like me!

fatbus 2nd Oct 2019 04:08

I believe it's a GCAA thing.

Python27 2nd Oct 2019 07:32


Originally Posted by fatbus (Post 10584517)
I believe it's a GCAA thing.

According the GCAA CAR MED, up to index of 35 you're fit if you're considered healthy to operate. Other than that, stupidity from the bouncy castle....

tonker 3rd Oct 2019 03:42

Thanks very much.

Jack D 3rd Oct 2019 21:44


Originally Posted by tonker (Post 10584266)
Is it true EK have dropped the BMI restriction for pilots. Asking for another fat c@nt who looks exactly like me!

I guess the BMI limit is still 30 ( EK limit) remember you are largely dealing with morons ! but I like your style .. good luck to your cuddly friend !

nowayman 5th Oct 2019 17:00

Anyone know the reason why they say you must use your US or Australian Passports if you held either over other nationalities held?

wingsover 6th Oct 2019 13:17

ATR72 to Emirates
 
Just wondering if my type rating would be a problem. Is it ok to apply EK with turboprop type ratings? Anyone know information if there's first officers from propellers?

donpizmeov 6th Oct 2019 14:37


Originally Posted by nowayman (Post 10587335)
Anyone know the reason why they say you must use your US or Australian Passports if you held either over other nationalities held?

For Visa ussues/costs.

rmcdonal 6th Oct 2019 14:44


Originally Posted by wingsover (Post 10587912)
Just wondering if my type rating would be a problem. Is it ok to apply EK with turboprop type ratings? Anyone know information if there's first officers from propellers?

There are turboprop pilots in EK, not sure if they are actively recruited at the moment as there seems to be a large pool of jet pilots available.

MaxOne777 7th Oct 2019 01:13

Cadet pilot program
 
Hi guys, a friend who he's a UAE national and had just completed his cadet training told me that they have started accepting internationals. Pilots at EK how true is it? I've been to the website it still open for nationals alone.

ManualFlight787 9th Oct 2019 10:53

Hello all,

I recently passed my assessment at Emirates and been told they’ll proceed with the rest of the approvals. Does anyone know what that actually means and how long does this usually take?

Also has anyone been rejected after having passed the assessment in a Dubai?

Thanks in Advance :)

Emma Royds 9th Oct 2019 15:17

Once you pass everything your application then goes to management for final approval. Falling at the final hurdle is rare as far as I am aware but it can happen and has to a friend of mine.

ManualFlight787 11th Oct 2019 10:26


Originally Posted by Emma Royds (Post 10590388)
Once you pass everything your application then goes to management for final approval. Falling at the final hurdle is rare as far as I am aware but it can happen and has to a friend of mine.

Thanks for that info Emma...I’m just patiently waiting for my approval now.

Just out of curiosity, what happened to your friend after they got rejected? How long did he/she have to wait to reapply?

Emma Royds 12th Oct 2019 13:16


Originally Posted by ManualFlight787 (Post 10591875)


Thanks for that info Emma...I’m just patiently waiting for my approval now.

Just out of curiosity, what happened to your friend after they got rejected? How long did he/she have to wait to reapply?

He never reapplied. Not sure if he was simply not interested in doing so or that he was not given the chance to do so.

ManualFlight787 12th Oct 2019 20:10


Originally Posted by Raski (Post 10592596)


after how many days they have told you passed everything mate?

Thanks

There were 2 others that passed the assessment day like myself...they had the email for referencing details sent to them the week after. Once you receive this email I think it means your file has been cleared and you’ve passed selection.

Your medical has to be approved before they can complete the approvals...I had extra medical tests to do so my approval has fallen behind.

MaverickPrime 12th Oct 2019 20:27


Originally Posted by MaxOne777 (Post 10588267)
Hi guys, a friend who he's a UAE national and had just completed his cadet training told me that they have started accepting internationals. Pilots at EK how true is it? I've been to the website it still open for nationals alone.

The internationals on the cadet programme have either come in from EFTA or have connections in the company with some wasta. Otherwise, I doubt you have much chance.

Springbok614 14th Oct 2019 13:20

I recently progressed through all the assessment stages in Dubai. A week after I returned I saw that my medical was approved and a day after that I got an application unsuccessful and apply again after two years email.

So it is possible to get a No after "passing" in Dubai and the re-apply period seems to be 2 years, but I have heard of guys applying again after 6 months and getting another assessment opportunity.

fatbus 14th Oct 2019 15:49

It's not only supply and demand but also it's global demographics . Experience levels of applications change overnight and also dictate who gets offered a job. That being said for those who take the job be very prepared for everything to change many times . No one is ever promised anything!


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