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pfvspnf 26th Dec 2017 04:04

I've been saying this all along , it's simply not worth the money . You are paying so much cash for an unreliable , very slow process that seems to be falling apart.

Renz_Aero 26th Dec 2017 04:35

Thanks for the feedback, it helped me to decide.

pfvspnf 26th Dec 2017 06:37

How many have failed and what part have they failed in ?

Flyingis 26th Dec 2017 12:36

Not very sure about how many and which part. 14-16 ppl start as a batch and clearly not all of them graduate. Some batches have 10 left.. Only school knows the figure I guess. Many coudlnt make the first 8months. Later on, you can repeat one session by paying 4400dhs for mcc and a lot more for last phase of the course.
Depends on your performance but at the same time the evaluation isn't very objective. Instructors have all the power and if complain about it you gonna have a hard time since they say you have an attitude problem which will follow you till air arabia.

Officer Kite 26th Dec 2017 23:38

Gentlemen, I happen to know someone who is actually quite successful in this programme. Well when i say successful, he is in base training at the moment is what I last heard. They started in 2014, failed ground school and then reapplied to the programme and got reaccepted to do the programme again.

Has anyone some more information on the current situation in this academy?

pfvspnf 27th Dec 2017 01:15

They make you pay to repeat sim sessions ? Haha really what kind of airline is this ? What next pay to re do the base training ? Pay to redo your PCs?

This is clearly a joke

Flyingis 10th Jan 2018 06:07

Many fail SIM sessions and it costs the most when ppl fail base training. Till you are done with alpha, you'll keep paying for numeral things like visa extension, ID, yearly medical, extended Portugal stay, fast track for license, visa run etc.

Flyingis 11th Feb 2018 13:03

Now even worse. Air Arabia came up with a new contract which makes them no need to pay basic salary of usd1360, even after cadets start flying. Every expenses will have to be covered by cadets themselves. Any extra flights during training, extra line check, any required simulator sessions, medical license renew, and a lot more..
Changed the name of contract from second officer contract to second officer trainee contract and by doing so i Don't know how worse it can go.

admx24 13th Feb 2018 09:26

Dear James,

hope your assessment went well, if you could please help me I'm going through the process of enrolling into AAA's cadet program, is it possible to tell me how did you prepare for the tests, is there any websites or apps that helped you for the prep, would really appreciate your assistance.


Flyingisthedream 14th Feb 2018 05:49

Hey everyone!

Doing my assesment by late August hopefully... any tips?

In regards to the delay, is it 1 year total? Like 2 months between phases or is it 1 year between each phase? Because one is doable the other isnt (I live in the UAE)

Secondly, where did you get the information about the new contract?

Thanks,
(Anyone else applying in the same time?)

Ysoserious2001 19th Feb 2018 09:52

Training is more than 3 years, definitely not 18 months as they say, so you can definitely except a delay of at least a year and half total during the training phases.

Alpha is a subsidiary of air arabia true but there is no contract between you and air arabia upon starting your training so eventhough you spend more than 200000 USD(including living expenses+ training fees) in 3 years, there is nothing to guarantee that you will get paid when you start flying. They can and will exploit you since the MPL is not valid up until you reach 1500hrs and you pass your final check, so basically you can't leave anywhere. If you try to speak with air arabia management they will tell you " there is nothing we can do, if you don't like it just leave" and can you really leave after you invested that much?
As one of the guys in his post said is true, now they are not paying a salary for their cadets until they are released which might take 3 months or even more or even maybe they just wont pay you till you finish your 1500 hrs. We all hope that things will change for the better though.
I am not telling you not to enrol in the program, I am just stating how things actually are so that you get your facts straight. At the end of the day, air arabia is liable to offer you 1500hrs, but the only question is are you willing to ride that train?

richin379 18th Apr 2018 14:07

Hi , enquiry about your experience in FTE jerez
 
Hey !! Just want to know about your experience in FTE Jerez ! I am willing to do CPL , just confused where to join ! Pls do let me know !

Piloto Maluco 18th Apr 2018 21:58

They are now doing some flying at Sevenair Academy in Portugal; the first batch started few days ago

Gulf777 28th Apr 2018 07:19

So what I understand is that if your visa gets rejected for some reason unknown to you, basically everything that you have invested in the MPL goes to trash?

Rider320 2nd May 2018 16:07

Can anyone say how to fund for this MPL training? Would banks provide loans for this program?

TacticalAviator 21st May 2018 14:12

Thought I would share some insight.

Having done all the assessments, speaking to a few cadets presently in the school at various stages of training - I can confirm that the delays are much worse than they sound like. Most of the posts in this thread are true. The training agreement between Alpha Aviation Academy UAE & G-Air Portugal has been cancelled with the last batches struggling to complete their cross country.

Delays between ground school and core flying are an average of 4-10 months. There is hope for improvement since SevenAir Academy has signed a new contract with Alpha and the first batch tied with SevenAir started. This should reduce the time between core flying phase and ground school. Problems begin to start upon return from core flying as you wait to begin A320 ground school, then again between base training and simulator assessments. If you are lucky to make it till here, flying the bus till 750 hours and the airline will decide based on your performance and availability to let you continue for another 750 hours as per the agreement.

If not the case, you can either be delayed further or simply denied progressing your hours and removed from training citing you have fallen below their requirements. Yes, it is now 'temporary S.O' contract. There have been cases between a transfer of visa, where the academy will transfer your visa from Alpha to Air Arabia before beginning training on the A320, where cadets have had their security clearance or entry permit rejected. If they feel so, you can reapply after a year, if not you are on your own. It is beyond their control as they claim.

If you have managed to reach the 1500 hour with your MPL, the ATPL can be delayed, as it requires airline approval to sign you off for the skill test. This is the least of worry as long as you agree to fly with them at low pay for as long as you can under changing contracts, without causing any incidents or accidents, then depending on availability, you will have the chance to get your unfrozen ATPL. Mind you, this does not necessarily happen at 1500 hours, it could be anytime later. Then you bond under a certain amount of currency and fly for them. Most applicants that began with training in 2014-16 are still flying on temporary contracts. 2010-2014 and before, the majority have gotten a placement with the airline.

Late 2016 till date, they are still under training. Although the brochure says 18 months, Alpha claims 20-24 months but the students speak for themselves saying it can be 36 months or longer. If you are not a resident in the UAE, be sure to add the expenses of transportation, food, accommodation, medical, extra visa (if applicable), security clearance fee (if applicable), extra exam fee (if applicable), extra flying hours or simulator sessions (if applicable) all clubbed with AED 630,000 (UAE VAT inclusive) for the complete training + AED 8060 + VAT (5%) for assessments and Class 1 medical including the UAE security clearance done in one go.

As for assessments, panel interview can be a bit tricky, do prepare well for it, or they might just fail you if they feel you could improve and come back in 6 months. It is only AED 800 so no big deal. English, Physics, Math and Psychomotor are basic GCSE level. It tests your high school fundamentals, practice well and you are fine. Psychometric assessment is now with EDMA Institute and costs AED 3150. I have heard people fail this due to the new battery test that tests your cognitive and spatial abilities along with general personality tests.

They will not share your results so it is up to the academy to decide based on your performance, I have been told it is the hardest stage of the assessment. If you don't clear it, come back after 1 year and pay the amount - they should take you. Each course starts every alternate month and they have not reduced the batches however they did reduce the overall annual intake due to insufficient aircraft. Presently 37 A320-200 with 5 or 7 leased A321 CEO/NEO to join later. The company claims their present fleet is 44 with 44 more A320 to come.

A separate news agency quoted plans to order 100 more A320NEO/B737/C Series jets by the end of the year. You join Alpha at your own risk if you have enough or more funding for the course. If you are not worried about spending 232,000 USD and have all the time - Alpha Aviation is for you. If the time is right and luck is in your pocket then you will end up with a contract and be happy. If anything changes, expect to go to jail or debt.

As the assessments at Alpha have a validity of 1 year, I have applied for the EasyJet MPL and if successful will begin training with them. I urge anyone else considering Alpha to weigh in other possibilities as well. Keep it your last resort.

All the best.

Cpt.Sushi 21st May 2018 23:27

MPL
 
What will I be flying for in Air Arabia to complete my 1500 hrs, and will I get paid when I fly for them during the 1500 hrs?

dogbody 4th Jun 2018 08:26

Sushi, aircraft is A320, existing contract you get paid for the 1500 hours, in future may be not....

PS Accountable manager was fired yesterday....

Yusuf Sayyed 1st Oct 2018 10:31

Please help me out with the entrance exam questions regarding maths n physics
 
pilot014

Please help me out with the entrance exam questions regarding maths n physics

Yusuf Sayyed 2nd Oct 2018 10:20

Please let me know what all questions will be asked in entrance exam regarding physics n maths in detail please


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