Thanks BLOGGSON, sounds interesting.

Cheers

Thanks 380, nice wing on that thing...!!

Instant Hooligan,

My comments have nothing to do with that ASR. It is about the actions of management.

The TRE intentionally broke an SOP. Intentionally....

The FO who wrote the ASR was Removed from Roster as he embarrased this TRE and the company. Think Australian Safety Board.

The FO was not, is not "sick".

The TRE remained on line. Think Australian Safety Board.

The Fo's career prospects are questionable. (I think he'll be fired soon)

My point is all about the threats from Management. This case is a prime example of that. (As was Manchester, where the crew was fired)


|Jinglie'd

Jinglied!
 

I know the TRE in question, and I know the FO.
The TRE is one of the practical trainers whose CRM skills are top notch. The FO on the other hand is bordering on paranoid, and I personally do not think he has a place in an airplane cockpit.
Pork

porkandbrew...

You obviously know both of these individuals better than I. I just wonder what type of CRM this A380 senior TRE was using when he intentionally busted SOP's. Post flight data confirms it.

I know the FO, but not well. Paranoid? After this incident, I would be!!

And by the way, go see the boss of HR. Normally I would say she's a great girl. Ask her about this little incident and see how she reacts....

Jinglie'd

I have no respect for people who have to run to management to settle their own problems. Doesn't deserve a job...should go

Roger THAT!

SEAMAN STAYNES (great name) from EK wrote
Never used to be like this, I put it down to the type of guys we are attracting now, not everyone (before you all shout out) but we do seem to get some really weird guys now
I assume that the majority of ASRs are written by Captains. With that in mind I would therefore suggest that the stupid, silly and idiotic ASRs you complain about are not written by newhire pilots but by the newly upgraded First Officers who are now Captains. Maybe you should reword your post to to read "we do seem to be upgrading some really limp First Officers now"

any personal favourites for ASRs?
 

Some of mine are "almost an unstable approach" and that old standby "unable to contact Bombay on HF".

...254 knots at 4,700ft. Definately need an ASR for that :ugh:

or generated config warning because f30 selected before gear down due to trying to meet 1500' cutoff etc ... indicates a serious lack of SA more to me ... having no idea of aircraft configuration and generating self inflicted warnings...??? and ......yes I have done it once too... when tired... but really do we need to tell folks about it.... just makes you look like a numpty to me!! but what would I know... unless you are trying to quote fatigue.. but then that is a thin wedge...
WJA

....always be careful standing up to expose yourself.... as in war, the bullet finds it's mark so much easier.

What are the safety related implications of the system doing it's job??

Perfect case in point, Config warning on takeoff due gear not straight. Once again terrible SA, but certainly not requiring an ASR.

Cav.

now that we are talking ASRs
 

Best one I ve ever read in the weekly reports was the one climbing out at
>260 kts when he was close to MTOW. (for the non B drivers: close to clean spead in climb). you must really be a w@nk3r.

S.S. totally with you on this one.

What are considered the desirable / undesirable trips? I'd imagine Africa would be low on the list, and Europe/Australia high based on the amount of expats from those countries. What about East Asia and South East Asia?

Alot of Guys on the Airbus actually request Africa just to get a layover and avoid more Indian turns. What a life!

Otherwise, there are enough guys here from around the globe to make everywhere desirable for someone.

Cav.

Although I'd imagine the Indian pilots probably don't mind the India turns as much as others...

We don't dislike flying to India because it's India. The Indian turns are actually quite decent in terms of flight duty time - about 3 hours each way.
The problem is the time of day, with most departing late at night. Even Indian pilots hate doing these as anyone else would.

and why would Indian pilots like doing turns to india. day time ones are not bad at all its the crap at night that no one wants, but if the indian guys want them at night I have a couple they can have

That's quite a good idea: have the indian pilots fly the indian turn-arounds. They are better placed to cope with the gibberish on VHF and deal with the infernal bad manners of the masses climbing over each other on HF, not to mention the bull****-artists amongst the ground-staff after they land.

Someone with local exposure to the culture can better work with the idiotic processes on the ground. And they'll be better at it if the inevitable issues with some of the world-renowned horrible pax that ALWAYS take place get out of hand and they need the capt involved for whatever reason.

Capetown is a looooong flight with plenty of nighttime flying but the S. Africans climb over each other to get it. They can have it!

The French love going to Paris which is arguably a pain in the butt.

People complain about the "rigours" of flying to Australia yet the aussies seem happy enough with it. Leave it to them!

Leave bombay and madras for the indians; they should love it more than anyone else!

Imagine what a boost for morale that would be! We should request one of TCAS's bull**** online polls about it immediately. Even if it was secretly voted against, TCAS could just lie to us again and push it in anyway. :) :) :)