The sackings will continue until....
 

Latest rumours have another 3 pilots being shown the door at EK. Heard through the grapevine that the augment crew on the Melbourne flight have been asked to leave..and a 777 captain who wrote some stuff on the internet that the company didn't seem to like.

No layoffs at EK depsite the economic downturn, but they should be able to trim a decent # of pilots without regards to seniority this way, just fire em.

Keep your heads up boys.

Guys still show on the rosters. It will be sad if this is true. get your facts right.

Confirmed....at least the DEC 777 Captain ( had a blog on the internet ) . Some comments didn't go over well with the Company and was asked to leave.

Free speech in the Middle East.....? think again :=

ANyone have the link to the blog to see what the fuss is about?

As i understand it's been removed..so no link, but there wasn't anything racy in there. Hope my info was wrong about the MEL augment guys.

Well he was a double dipper ex American Airlines and he was not happy with the ways EK was managed and quite outspoken about it. So I don't think he needed a big push to resign...

The crew being photographed thought it would be a good idea to moon for the picture perhaps???:eek:
Only a rumour guys!

What would be wrong with taking a picture of the crew in front of the aircraft? :confused:

It would be an offence if it was done in DXB. No photos allowed of the A/C or airport there.

OZ is right
 

yeah OZ is right was some burst out about it a while ago..- national security and all in DXB...??

I still remember the days of letting the crew sit up in/on the intake and get a happy snap for the folks back home...( and yes I did tell them not too tread on the acoustic lining and all that stuff... in case anyone wants to have a go..)

But sacking folks for it??... sounds even too harsh for current management... perhaps if everyones morale improved the sackings and beatings would stop?

Guess it gets costs down?
W

Woodie is right. There was some memo in the past, about no photos in DXB on the ramp.
Despite that fact that pax are merrily snapping away on remote stands :ugh:
Of course all those nice spotters websites, have loads of photos taken in DXB, so quite what that memo achieves is anyones guess. Of course you had to be employed at the time to know about said memo.

Anyhow this alleged firing is just that, unless anyone knows different.

SyB :zzz:

Sounds a bit over the top to me

Really? I don't think anything is over the top for EK at the moment. Lots of pilots on the market, they only need about 60 guys next year...who cares if you fire a few dozen.

Short sighted but the way they run the show here.

well we get people shagging on the beach but that doesn't make it legal ;)

It is well known that it is illegal to take photographs on the airport, many airports around the world have similar restrictions even in Europe.

If the Airport police catch you and make an official complaint then the company has to be seen to do something, although firing them does seem a bit harsh.

Its for Abu Dhabi but the rules are the same for Dubai.

Visit Abu Dhabi

not 'well known' I suspect. My gut feeling is that the 'sackings' are just pprune BS. :=

I think this rumour is just that. I've heard nothing.

Will close this thread in a couple of days, unless more concrete info is brought forward.

EGGW

LHS Downgraded
 

Heard a LHS guy downgraded because he went to check a crew during layover in her room with hotel security guard and hotel manager. He was concern with the crew's health/security... Anyone know about this?

Quatregalon....your first post and a new pprune alias I guess?

Well, that doesn't make a lot of sense - that's what we are MEANT to do!

Sounds like more BS to me. :ugh:

Apparently you are not that "informed...."
It was in BKK layover....
Like you I am just trying to get more details... and like you it sounds outrages...
Nope it is not another alias and I am NEW!

After a couple of e-mails and some investgating, it seems the photos were taken in CMB, and ground staff complained. Pilots are removed from roster.
Daft place to have the birds jump in the engines for photos :ugh: Slight civil war just over.

EGGW

So we can fly the plane, serve food on it, yet not take a :mad: photo of it.
The guards at CMB are the dodgiest looking goons around.
Civil war, what's worth fighting for.

I did a few months damp lease for Etihad with Air Malta; at the end I sneaked a picture of myself in front of the Etihad livery jet I had just flown....naughty naughty! Yes we were warned to take no photos at the airport.

Thye airport of choice for crew in/in front of intake piccies is Auckland. Refreshing lack of busllsh-one-t from the Kiwis - unlike their cousins on the 'West Island', who seem to think they are at the cutting edge of the war on terror. Incoming/outgoing crews aren't even allowed to communicate - for reasons I've never quite got my head around.

Hope this blows over without any long term problems for the CMB crew concerned.

Its interesting looking through the photos in this month training capt's news letter :D

Yes - and you cant take any nail clippers, penknife or leatherman with you in case you hijack it either..:ouch:

This airport pictures issues is nothing new and often valid for passengers as well. We know it and should just avoid being seen...

Well, we all know it's illegal. But to fire someone just for that reason... it's like repairing a wristwatch with a sledgehammer.

I believe this relaxed kiwi mentality is due to the security they enjoy from the "I-wouldn't-climb-over-them-to-get-to-you" theory. With Australia in the way, the scum of the universe (often on floating bits of wood or our jets) usually don't bother to make it all the way to NZ and so the sheep-shaggers have the luxury of a level of relative complacency.

It's not their fault; I believe the aussies simply want to avoid their country turning out like the UK has.

Seriously?

The capt was demoted to FO..

Yup seriously...one less F/O and a demoted captain who will no doubt be a highly motivated employee.

All ya can do is make sure you have an exit plan in advance and hope it doesn't happen to you until they run short of pilots again and have to start acting like adults.

Support, what support? What part of the SOPs were broken? Whose lives were endangered? TCAS, where are your actions when your mouth clearly offered your support?

They took a few photos, so what? A letter/call to advise that it would be better not to due to local sensitivities would have sufficed but to sack & demote? :mad:

Passed through CMB and tried to get the real story from the SM.

Evidently there had a been a long technical delay and that the engineers were working on the aircraft. The crew were on-board but the passengers were at the gate. A group of them (Brits I was told :uhoh:) had been getting rather aggro that their connections out of DXB were going to be missed.

Someone noticed the crew taking photos and got quite nasty about it, saying that pilot and cabin crew "weren't doing anything to shorten the delay". (How could they?). This group of pax then took photos of the crew around the aircraft with their mobiles and told the ground staff that they would be posting these photos on the internet and emailing to EK management.

The ground staff were forced to report the entire incident as the pax were making a complaint. The SM was shocked to hear of the outcome. Neither the ground staff nor security reported the crew for taking photos. the passengers who made the complaint are the real perps IMHO.

Unbelievable, a new low.

AS and ED, you should know that almost every pilot here has ZERO respect for you. I dont even know why I write this as it so obviously means nothing to you two desk monkeys.

As for DXB and EK, its true. You cant polish a turd.

This means a new step has been made to increase conflict levels between management and pilots.
Forget "support"
Forget the words spoken on the meetings about any subject.
:yuk:
A kick below the waist, this one.
Respect to the ones that got fired and their families.

Lowstandard, you can polish a turd.. watched them successfully polish a turd on Mythbusters a few years back.:}
On a serious note, what a terrible way to deal with such a minor situation, a telephone boll..king/advisory would suffice and a letter to Pax involved to explain the situation. Let's hope the next pilot shortage arrives sooner than later...

Wiley

"Incoming/outgoing crews aren't even allowed to communicate -............."

You cannot be serious?! If you are, this is the biggest lot of BS I have ever come across!

Its due to the fact that inbound and outbound crews are on different floors of the building. Occasionally we do meet in the aircraft. Lets not make it worse than it is.

I cant believe that someone was sacked over photos. :ugh:

L1011
I would like to correct you, the SM is partly bull****ting to you
it was not the passengers but actually one of the EK ground staff that took the photos