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Dogged 16th Mar 2009 20:15

ExWife
 
Does anyone know how successful an ex-wife would be at obtaining all your EK pay and contract benefit history, including provident funds for the time you worked at EK if her lawyer served a a court order for the information to an outstation. PM if you have any info. Thanks

hot tuna 16th Mar 2009 23:37

you could be a divorce lawyer out fishing..as it's your 1st post :oh:

Dogged 17th Mar 2009 01:34

That's true. But I'm not. I'm just another poor sucker from the wrong country getting shafted in court again and again. I was just looking for a little help, but I can understand your level of caution. That's also why I wanted a PM. If you have some insight and you can't trust this sight we could meet for coffee in Dubai, I'll show you my company id and I'll even pay.If you think I'm a lawyer after that I'll still pay for the coffee but not the dounut. Gotta go, I'm hearing those foot steeps again!

NZ X man 17th Mar 2009 04:11

ex wife
 
Mate, your a pilot, you should be clever enough to keep that info from most people in your home country, let me see could that be west of your position. Open a bank account far far away.

Good Luck on the future finances

Ahad Adump 17th Mar 2009 04:48

I am in the same boat. I have learnt the following:

The country the first paper work is filed in, laws' apply (multi national marriage)
EK will reveal your total package and prov. fund to a lawyer in dxb.
Some home countries use "grossing -up". They convert your tax free income into a pre-tax gross and your maintenace is determined on this amount.
Do not sign a maintenace plan pre-divorce, this remains binding and enforcable after divorce.
Do settle ONLY for DHS based maintenace plan on your BASIC only.

I have done the following:
Sell all you have and go into cash, physically hold the money. Keep this burried in the garden not safety dep box (no annonimity in dxb anymore)
Have no money in any account anywhere in world. Hold the cash.
Run up as much dept and personal loans as possible. All goes into the pot + and -.
When the lawyers ask about the dissapearing assets, say you where scammed when you tried to buy gold bars in BKK/JNB/Deira. The rest you lost gambling.....sorry.

Go thru the divorce then:
Make sure EK HR removed all her details off your records, no med cover.
Now pay the w***e what you think is fair. To come after you once she has left dxb is very hard.

Then go on a 14 day holiday/fest to BKK, this will take all sadness away.

Good luck.(sorry no spell check)

ima birdbrain 17th Mar 2009 08:36


When the lawyers ask about the dissapearing assets,
Tell em you invested in a Ponzi Scheme called F1

411A 17th Mar 2009 13:39

I think perhaps that my present First Officer has the right idea...'Why get married when all this free skirt is around, it's a bit like taking a ham sandwich to a banquet.'

slowto280 17th Mar 2009 13:51

Idea
 
You could be lucky like I am, come March 31, no job. Pretty hard to get blood from a stone.................... (oh yeah, a little too late for the 'stay single, lots of skirt out there'.........)

Lucky Me........ :ugh: :mad:

BuzzLightyears 17th Mar 2009 14:29

maybe you can give it a shoot!
 
... you can marry a lawyer!... but then you must forget every 'single' duobtful behavior, cause you are married again and with a lawyer this time!

Dogged 17th Mar 2009 15:31

Thanks for the help.
If they release my info to a DXB based lawyer is he obligated to send it out of country. This is taking place back in my home country.
I have no problem with the debt thing, her lawyer has haunted me for a long time so its quite massive. As for hiding my cash in the garden, I think a matchbox and a few coins would be all I could come up with.

QCM 17th Mar 2009 17:15

Dogged,above all be careful when you fly...

menegoc 21st Mar 2009 03:36

ex wife
 
anybody know what happen if you don't pay the full child support amount?
Is it anyway that they could impound your salary from a European country?

saywhat 21st Mar 2009 04:02


anybody know what happen if you don't pay the full child support amount?
That's just being cheap. You brought them into the world, you ought to pay for them. Anything less is just inexcusable. Your fight might be with your wife, not your children........If you are cheaping out on your children just to teach your ex-wife a lesson, then you deserve not only a court whipping but an arse whipping as well......

KRUGERFLAP 21st Mar 2009 04:21

MAn i used to say that .I could have 300 kids,but i don't want even 1/4 of wife.

The guys who get married again after a divorce are STUPID.


Support your kids.Help your wife to keep their life on track ,but don't give her a easy life.

And another thing ,if you wanna get divorce,you have to wait her to ask for it.Never ask for it,especially if she loves you and u got busted jumping the fence.She will @#)$*#@)$@#* your life FOREVER,lol.

I think the best option is stay married and do ur tricks outstation and you gonna keep the kids by your side.Because live in the SandPit without family(especially our children) sucks.

menegoc 21st Mar 2009 06:40

ex wife
 
dear saywhat,how dear do you give sentences,without knowing the case,I asked something just to have some help and trying to solve a difficult situation like I'm in.It is evident that you don't have any other matters to think about in your life,please refrain yourself from answering I don't think people are interested in your bull.........

canadansk 21st Mar 2009 08:32

Other wives locally will be sure to tell them exactly what you make/made and how much the bonuses are/were! They will band together like a pack of wolves.

Jumbo744 21st Mar 2009 20:26

wow
 
good thread. It confirms what I always thought: never ever ever get married.

Good Luck :ok:

Ahad Adump 22nd Mar 2009 03:57

Menegoc

No they can not lay their hands on your dxb income from abroad.
Your home country might cause trouble when you enter as a pax.
On the GD you are OK except Canada. Unless the w***e knows you are in town and calls her lawyers.
Always pay something, on a monthly basis so she can not claim desertion. Pay this via a source which can provide a record.

Then go to bkk for that well deserved fest. You will not be sad anymore.

.air 22nd Mar 2009 07:48

Its really hard to belive.Thank God i am a Pilot not a wife.

Dogged 22nd Apr 2009 23:30

Does anyone know of a referance in any EK manual stating that the company will not get involved in personal matters of this sort.

Thanks

White Sausage 26th Apr 2009 13:49

They will not! Happened to me a couple of years ago, went to big boss HR (JH) and he told me that she can get lost. He was very p:mad:d about, and I phrase it, "these b:mad:es trying to rip off my pilots" and promised me to do whatever he can to help me.
And he did! So relax, it´s not as bad as you would think.

Dogged 4th May 2009 02:44

Thanks WS. I have spoken to company lawyers and they have been very, very helpful. Gone above and beyond what I was expecting. My hat is off to them. I'll slip an update in here later for those that may be in the same boat.

linedriva 4th May 2009 08:19

Dogged, please post the info here if you have a spare moment. There are plenty of us in the same boat. PM if you want to.

Linedriva

h3dxb 6th May 2009 21:00

To srew in (every time I thought it will happen only to others)
1. Question : as we are the sponsors for our spouses is there any way to refuse this ?
2.Question: In case we got rid of >>futurious<< ex wife to their home country, how fast and how precious can they approach an Emirates court to get money ?
3.Question: Any good laywer known ?

THX

Don't care tippex, just pissed off

NG_Kaptain 13th May 2009 20:58

How many of us are happily married, separated, divorced? Here at EY I believe a very high percentage of the pilots are in failed marriages.

ONEIN60 14th May 2009 04:22

Why don't we start a "HAPPILY DIVORCED IN EK CLUB". Get togethers etc at Longs Bar or wherever else to drown those "happy" sorrows!

Dirigible 29th May 2009 16:37

While I don't for one moment condone infidelity on the part of either in the marriage, and fully understand how acrimonious divorce can be, I am still appalled to find out that the man who tipped off the Dubai Police of his wife's adulturous affair is in fact a Capt at Ek. His wife no doubt understood the risks that she was taking, but this is in no way a society where the female miscreant can expect fair treatment. What is particularly sad in this case are the children, aged 11 and 13, who are now without a mother who is languishing in custody in Dubai. This should have been sorted out privately.

Borat_Sagdiyev 29th May 2009 17:26

Not Like Kazakstan
 
I don't for 1 second agree with some of the laws under which we live. But, if the guy had been the one caught with his pants down then I guarantee that the wife would not have blinked twice before divorcing, suing for custody, the house in the UK, the car, furniture, pension fund, shirt off his back etc, etc ….

The bottom line is that in this twisted world in which we live, through no fault of his own, had V.A. filed for divorce in his own country, the adulterous wife would probably have walked away with a large chunk of his wealth and would most likely be shagging the new boyfriend in her newly acquired house still being paid for by the poor ex-husband!

Boolsh*t I tell you!


In this case, kudos to V.A! :ok:

(Once bitten twice shy – ask any divorced guy!)

lowstandard 29th May 2009 18:58

He had to know that it would get press attention after what happened to the first lady that got tossed in jail. So how stupid can you be to air you private life out for everyone to see.

V.A. It comes down to this....Everyone in the company, most of Dubai and more and more people in the UK now know that you were so lacking in horizontal skills that your wife had to fly someone down from England, put him up in a 5 star hotel and get filled in like an ek application form for the whole weekend just because you cant cut it buddy!

You should have worn that helmet when you played cricket as a kid....and the cup as well.

hunterboy 29th May 2009 19:06

Or maybe his employer was working him so hard, he was never at home to do the business? This career does wreck marriages.

linedriva 30th May 2009 07:00

Does anyone know of a Lawyer in Dubai that specializes in Australian Divorce Law?

skytango1 30th May 2009 07:59

EX...at EK and then some....
 
My God the s**ts really hitting the fan,,how many are out there....???UUghhh!!!!
I guess the ""SWINGING"" did i say S(*)INGING..??OOpps!! going on isn"t helping either..

Happy marriages.....

Desert Diner 30th May 2009 12:31

The sand pit is not good to marriages.
 
I think most western expats have mixed feelings about VA.

But if Mrs VA had the "balls" to fly out her toy boy and put him out in a hotel (I wonder who's money was spent on that) then VA having the balls to grass them out puts it into perspective.

I've seen too many times what it does to expats out here who's wives just move in with others (be it expats, locals or even other women) and they really can't do much about it for the sake of the kids.

I guess in VA's case enough was enough. He just now has to explain to the kids why he put mummy into jail, and that chapter will be closed.

helen-damnation 30th Jul 2011 20:25


No they can not lay their hands on your dxb income from abroad.
Not sure about that. In a certain north European island there are certainly court orders for payment, which I know is not exactly the same thing but ammounts to it!


Your home country might cause trouble when you enter as a pax.
Not just as pax. A certain Captain who I'm sad to say is a fellow countryman was arrested on arrival when operating a flight. Should have paid for his kids. :mad:

145qrh 30th Jul 2011 23:07

Sounds like he is well shot of Can Chick.

Sounds a bit bitter, and a little twisted, not sure about libel or defamation laws but calling him a wife beater could well land you in trouble.

jackx123 31st Jul 2011 04:39

Why get married?

Just find a woman you hate and give her a house

White Sausage 31st Jul 2011 15:29

Not just as pax. A certain Captain who I'm sad to say is a fellow countryman was arrested on arrival when operating a flight. Should have paid for his kids.

Well, I think I know this Captain very well: He always paid for his kids, but not so much for his vicious, lifesucking b:mad:tch of exwife. That´s when she decided to get him arrested upon arrival in Europe. But then she is after destroying him anyway, so she doesn´t care if he loses his job or not because of her actions. Anyway, he still is here and enjoys life with a hot, much younger, decent and supporting girl that loves him, unlike his exwife who is a freakin´golddigger :ok:

White Sausage 31st Jul 2011 15:31

Back to the thread (sorry, got carried away a bit...;)): Basically, nothing much can happen to you here in UAE, EK is supporting you in this case (at least), so don´t worry too much about da ex-bitch

helen-damnation 31st Jul 2011 19:53

White S

Surely not the same guy, this one didn't pay or withheld the money. There's more but I'm not posting here.

I don't support pond life of either side :=

QF22 31st Jul 2011 22:33

linedriva
 
I am not in UAE, but I did most of my divorce online.
Actually divorce is the easy bit, its the property settlement and the child support that really hurts.
I am sure you could use a lawyer in Oz and do it all by phone and email.
Lawyers are all blood sucking scum anyway.
From my experience, if there are 2 kids give her 66 percent and get on with life. I think the standard equation is 50/50 and then allow 8 percent for each kid.
As far as the Child Support Agency CSA goes, just pay them, they have reciprocal rights to most countries, last time i looked not the UAE. But if you dont pay and you fly to Oz, you wont leave until you pay, you will be stopped at immigration. The CSA website has lots of info Child Support Agency | Child Support Agency
I paid for 2 kids for over 5 years approx $2K /mth but it depends on income. I have never seen or heard from them in that time. the CSA dont care and wont help, they just want the money.
If you can make an agreement with the ex and just pay her direct, and keep the CSA out of it.
Life goes on, if you cant salvage the marriage, try to settle it out of court, otherwise youre lukin at maybe $75K each in legals.
Good Luck !


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