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zero CRM 30th Sep 2008 01:00

Reduced Annual Leave for GF pilots
 
There is a strong rumour that HR is planning to gradually reduce leave days from 52 to 42 days. So as a first installment, 2 leave slots of 2009 have already been reduced to 25 days each.
I think its about time to teach this HR COO a lesson, so this is our moral duty to go sick for the number of days we loose.

surfer of desert 30th Sep 2008 04:16

We have a contract and "IF" they try to do so they need to change it!!!

LOC GREEN 30th Sep 2008 06:09

Not a rumour!!
 
It is very true!! Training captains received their leave slots recently for bidding and found to be 25 days each. :ugh:

SCATANA 30th Sep 2008 06:26

Last Good thing in GF
 
oh boy, here goes the last remaining good thing in Gulf Air.

first CCQ then dual seat ops and now this.

Bahraingeneric 30th Sep 2008 06:56

Thats the ONLY diff between GF and the rest. Change my leave and Im gone!!!

Mow 30th Sep 2008 07:04

Oh Ya. This is true, and has been actioned quitely. As said eralier, Training captains slots are based on 25 days only.... Congratulations Gulf Air new HR :D

Cam32 30th Sep 2008 08:21

About the contract...

I have tried to get an updated copy of the contract for loan and banking reasons, also to have our new terms and conditions in writing.

I was refused by more than one person, and went high in the chain. No valid answers given. I was told the old contract was sufficient. Huh??

Seems to be another GF tactic of keeping the information away from the drones.

If anyone has had luck getting a new contract please post here.

Cheers

LOC STAR 30th Sep 2008 10:22

For info
 
Hi all,
For info

b767300 30th Sep 2008 11:33

to be honest 10 days is also enough.
I think I will send them this idea as one of the MY IDEA bullS***.


Ahh I am tired.
Oops ROSTER CHANGES AGAIN.

brassplate 30th Sep 2008 12:02

there are two things that irk me the most with gf and in fact, any company.

1. LYING
2. UNDERHANDED TACTICS

cam32 may have a point regarding the non-disclosure of contracts with the new terms and conditions.
WHEN gf decides to reduce annual leave and you argue that it's against your contract, they will gladly agree......so long as you accept the old contracts remuneration and duty awards!!!

downNOgreens 30th Sep 2008 15:36

This is indeed a disturbing development.
I wonder what the latest recruits have on their contracts. Any new GF pilots recruits care to shed some light on your terms and conditions?

Soft Altitude 30th Sep 2008 15:47

Zero CRM, the "new" head of planning and rostering A.A., said recently that HE is going to teach Gulf Air pilots a lesson...
Well, if this is the first one, not many colleagues are willing to wait for lesson number 2, me included. It is the Local pilots' call this time not the expats', me thinks. They are the only ones who have the power to change anything. As for us others, they (GF HR), are probably hinting at where the door is in a "nice" way, before it gets ugly and being de-facto shown the door if we are unhappy about the changes !
Time for some CV dusting...again !?

SCATANA 30th Sep 2008 16:40

ah crap, better update my log book again :(.

Che Guevara 30th Sep 2008 18:50

Does anybody know what the labour law says on the matter? The 12 days as far as I remember were a requirement to replace public holidays....interesting to find out.
Better go and start polishing up the old CV I guess...will they never learn?

Chao

Dear Mr. Emirates,

I understand that you are looking for experienced type rated pilots for.......I also understand that your pilots average 10-13 days off per month...

tmax 30th Sep 2008 20:09

Some leave slots are 24 days long!!
50 upgrades a year an 200 pilots by the end of next year? he he!!!!!

Cam32 30th Sep 2008 20:48

Will they NEED to out-source training with those figures. Sounds like a stretch.

DesertHawk 30th Sep 2008 21:19

been here and been positive for a while. this is my limit!!!! crappy rosters, changing rosters and now this. what the F88k do they think we are? how can our managment allow this to happen? this obviously shows us how our managment in operations has absolutely zero ability to stand up and actually do the right thing for us. makes me laugh not even 1 year ago there was CC telling us how things are gonna be so much better blah blah blah. a bunch of BS just like the senior boys said. well i hope they realize this is exactly how they got themselves in this position in the first place. umm i think that sick call will come in handy

Sal-e 1st Oct 2008 09:50

I think every one of those 50 days of leave is needed to recoup properly.

Mephistopheles 1st Oct 2008 12:22

Well, they finally are doing it. N.S. & A.A. have been trying to do this for sometime now(as well as trying to find a way to steal any leave days you have in the bank-so keep on eye on your leave balance). N.S. never did give a s*** & even less so now that he's leaving shortly. Shame he can't leave sooner!
As far as I am concerned I WILL be going sick an extra 10 days per year so sorry guys ahead on time if you happen to be called out last minute for 1 of my blocks.
It has always been the same here. The "managers" upstairs never realize what there doing until we take drastic action.

Chuck Y 1st Oct 2008 13:18

So who will be collecting the BD50,000 check for this great idea? No doubt some useless-braindead-waste-of-space-sack-of-crap sitting doing nothing in HQ.


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