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Che Guevara 1st Oct 2008 14:17


Annual leave allowance 52 days per calendar year is comprised of 42 days contractual leave plus 8 day-in-lieu of public holidays plus 2 travel days.
That is what it says somewhere as nobody has picked up on it yet. This is the reason, and the only reason why RH failed to implement a reduced leave policy when he was here. I understand he is doing it in Etihad as we speak though. :rolleyes:
However, I would not be surprised to see the travel days disappear, but hey, we have just gained 6 or so through the FTLs anyway.

Good luck all.

DesertHawk 2nd Oct 2008 19:54

mythical 6 days for sure. new FTL allow rostering to use u at anytime on a stby day as it can be changed as long as u get your min rest. basically GF is showing us how appreciative they are that we all did not jump ship on our binds and showed our resilience to stick through the hard times. makes me laugh how simple mined this guy in HR is over 2 travel days piss everyone off and make everyone mad???? no sense at all. well i never thought i would say this but SICK just like the local boys told us long ago!!!!

migrane 3rd Oct 2008 01:02

Guys i think that all of us agree that gulf air have crossed a line they should not have, first it was there dodgy FTL and now this,when they changed the FTL people kept quite and kept on flying on their days off which i completely don't understand, it is time gentlemen to take matters into our own hands and show these misguided souls our true worth........ever pilot should stop helping out with rostering and stop flying on their days off or even worst their leave,or otherwise it might get even worst,if we keep having people covering blocks for them there is no reason for these so called managers to worry ,we need to set aside whatever differences we have and stand together against these people, that is the only way we can stop this madness....please stop flying on your days off and leave and i assure you you will see a change

brassplate 3rd Oct 2008 06:08

hell, why wait for days off or leave to not fly? just don't fly, period. use up all your sick leave. that should surely leave them in a rut!

Mow 3rd Oct 2008 08:16

Che Guevara!!

We didn't gain 6 days off by the new FTL. With the old FTL a day off was a 36 hours long; however, with the new FTL a single day off is 34 hours; therefore, with a simple calculation:
8 (days off) X 12 (months) X 36 = 3456 hours
8 (days off) X 13 (rosters) X 34 = 3536 hours
----------------
Difference is: 80 hours

Which are 2 days off (each 34 hrs long) and 12 hours; So by reducing 2 days from the leave bank, you can call it a gain of 12 hours!!!

Congratulations.....

rgrds

ironbutt57 3rd Oct 2008 08:21

Unfortunately there has not been any "fficial" release from the apparatchik..before getting our panties all in a knot, lets see what the "official" explanation is, then take it from there..

Mephistopheles 3rd Oct 2008 17:41

Maybe it will be 'offical' next month when the leave bids/slots are published.

Mow 4th Oct 2008 05:07

It is official and published in the HR manual (Personal Manual) Issue no. 22 Section 4. And the Training Captains got their leave slots published with 25 days each already... Waiki Waiki

Che Guevara 4th Oct 2008 10:15

Pure genius Mow, congratulations!
One small question comes to mind though, how long is a leave day in hours?
At the end of the day we have not lost anything, in fact we have gained so it's a non event.

Chao

migrane 4th Oct 2008 12:11

you are sadly mistaken bro because we have lost and i'm afraid that we will start losing more especially when our leave slots get cut to 42 days :ugh:

Albergineman 4th Oct 2008 13:50

... and the next will be DEC!

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brick in the wall 4th Oct 2008 15:04

And after that the sky will fall in and then after that the rivers will run dry and then after that the pope will become CEO.So much to worry about and so little time.

Pixie Queen 4th Oct 2008 15:39

It's amazing that people would fly on their days off. Your only feeding the notion to management, that pilots will fly for food.

On a lighter note, where might one find the gouge for the GF interview process?

Ali Baba 4th Oct 2008 19:51

We should start joining maasalama list, I will start.

ironbutt57 4th Oct 2008 21:24

Some of us fly on our day off if it's a block that suits us..and we get paid ok for it, and get the day returned...now back to your piss-match with the rusties there fellow I personally wouldnt pay a nickle to that "union" that destroyed America West:ok:

Newbie30 5th Oct 2008 04:40

I am confused here , can someone pls tell me are the leave days reduced to 50 days ( 2* 25 days leave slot ) or down to 42 days ??? :hmm:

SCATANA 5th Oct 2008 09:04

"HR is planning to GRADUALLY reduce leave days"
 
read the 1st post,

50 days in 2009, 42 days in 2010.

brassplate 5th Oct 2008 12:14

50 days plus 2 days travel is what's on the old contracts.

which means:

you can have your 50 days as per the contract, but you gotta get paid what's on the old contract as well.

which is why:

we never got new contracts when the new package was released!!
they allowed themselves a proviso to enable them to change the leave conditions as they saw fit!!

which means:

a good way to find out if leave has changed is to ask new pilots what their leave entitlements are.

could someone please do that?

Chuck Y 5th Oct 2008 14:04

Bahrain labour law states that an employer cannot unilaterally reduce any benfits that have been inherited by the employee. So it looks like GF are in breach of it if they try and go ahead with it.

DesertHawk 5th Oct 2008 14:08

it is straight forward. they have changed the leave slots. 2 at 25 days you can go and ask rostering they will elt u know. we have to stop talking and start acting. everyone has to complain officailly. send letters go in person and start complaining in a professional manner. on top of that let them know by not doing any favors ie. off days and block changes. also start to use a sick day when you really dont feel well....they moight realize all this trouble is not worth it. talk is cheap we have to act!!!!!


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