No prejudice it is experience.
I have been there and I found serious health risks.

AL,

SriLankan Airlines...Time for you to meet Dr. S.:ok:

He AXUM? If nothing suits you on any continent, and your only option is EY, well too bad, go for it and don't come back here complaining.

Yo have been warned.

For the JAA licence, be aware that converting any ICAO licence to JAA through Ireland or Luxembourg is pretty easy.

Korean do hire based anywhere where KAL operate 3 times a week, gives you much choice.

Chinese carriers base in Europe and hire F/O's.

And what about Cathay ?? Strong reputation, know how to deal with expats, and correct seniority and unions.

EK is desperate, so it shouldn't be that hard to succeed the interview. Get the correct books and try hard enough, instead of whining.

The major problem with EY is that they lie all the time and they jeopardize your life.

By the way, Air Mauritius, not anymore the exodus, as they are paid in EUR......Many ex MK consider coming back there coz EY sucks so much.

For Sri Lankan, oups.... that was a mistake

So with an annual inflation running at 10-15 % yearly, let's say at least 30 % in total looking back across the last 3 years, what has been our salary increase over the same period ? We just got 4 %, I know. What we get earlier ? I recon that I've at least lost 20 % of my bying power here in the UAE over that period...and it will get lots worse....and then we have VAT coming next year.....fantastic....

I do believe you, EY is not the perfect airlines, but I also think that it couldn't be so bad. Tell me why the pilots don't move to EK? Just 120 km away!

Maybe I go for it and come back complain...

Could you tell me more about it?

Im not sure converting any ICAO licence to JAA is that easy, certainly not through Ireland....its got a lot tougher than it used to be.

I was told of a no poaching agreement between EK and EY, can anyone confirm this ?

Within the past few months pilots have gone from EY to EK.

yes, but no one has ever gone from EK to EY. Except maybe one who promptly quit.

Road show announcement housing allowance 170000

Now HR email 20 % increase which is to 20% of 120000 AED equal 24000 on top of the 120000 giving us 144000 AED which gives you access on the market to a small 2 bedrooms flat in the darkest suburb of AUH.

First, HR, please go back to 1st grade math

Second, for the others, stop lying !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Up to 10 ID50's per year, but you can't use them coz the clever HR online system prevent you from making any booking up to Dec 2008, then 2009 is not open to anything.

Clever again..............

Schooling, well thank you but still below average schooling fees, and still as from 4 years.

Now you ask why it's anything but EY...

Togalk,

Yes, there is a B777 driver, EK to EY and I also seem to remember the Chief Pilot from EK, and now a few others on DEC A340 Airbus fleet have arrived on line.

Not sure the reasons, although they must be very good unto themselves, but yes, some have crossed westwards along the coast.

Guys
Why don't you consider Qatar Airways ... I'm sure you'll be happy :E
:D

Sure !!

EY is no better than QR, maybe worse these days

NEW EXTRA PACK for EY
 

WILL this comfort the economic CRISIS IN UAE


For eligible staff, housing allowances will rise by 20 per cent with effect from July 1.

Education allowances (to meet child schooling costs) will rise also by 20 per cent from September 1 for eligible staff.

All staff will be able to purchase ID50 tickets in all cabins for themselves and immediate family (spouse, children and parents) from today (May 18). Please note that children under 12 years are not entitled to first class.

Also from today, the number of tickets for family and friends will increase from four to 10 per year and can be purchased in any combination of ID90 and ID50 tickets.

CAN we AFFORD them (10) ,WE could if they did not charge the TAX like they do in other Major Airlines .

They just do not know how to Squeeze your TAX FREE Salary

And if you are extra nice we can include you in a draw for Bonjovi tickets:= There should have been a special discount price for all CREW .

Are we not the National Airline OF U.A.E.
Sure does not Feel Lke IT :*
I have 4 pairs of complimentary tickets available for the Bon Jovi concert at Emirates Palace on Tuesday 20th May. There are 2 pairs for the ‘Platinum Pit’ (doesn’t sound very comfortable but the tickets have a face value of AED 890 each) and 2 pairs of seated tickets (face value AED 590).

So inflation in UAE has risen by 10-15 % yearly over the last few years which combines to at least 30 % over the last 3 years..how high has our payrise been during those 3 years ? We easily have taken a 20 % loss in purchase power over those 3 years...Ok, I am not saying that EY has any obligation to compensate us for the inflation but I am telling prospective pilots thinking of joining EY to think twice. Here you will not save any money.

And there is this to come and a worderful statement from Dubai Customs
http://www.arabianbusiness.com/51951...ards-of-living

I can think of 4 on the B777 alone who have moved from EK to EY.

I can think of 1 again on B777 who has moved from EY to EK.

This thread sure is intimidating for anyone wanting to say anything good about EY. Its so easy to resign yourself to leave such threads to the same few who continually trash the Airline. So much vitriol and sadly nothing much constructive.

Its not perfect at EY but I and my family are happy and live within our means, which is still possible but becoming more difficult. I try not to think about those in the office and are far less stressed because of it, but I do sometimes succumb. I make the most of what is given, enjoy work, Abu Dhabi, and life as a whole and could not ask for more. Its not because I am not greedy maybe just easier to please.

I'm sure I will come under fire soon but for those very unhappy at EY please realise that doesn't mean we all are.

Good luck to all those thinking of leaving I really do hope you find what you are looking for.

He Men on pause, go back to your management or recruitment seat and give us a break.

This is for real people living real lives, trying to survive, working their a:mad:s off for so little reward and so much pain, while others fly their offices coz they are :

A. unable to fly an airplane properly
B. too busy licking a:mad:es
C. both of the above

People left EK for better life, on vain promises, one of them already left back to Europe, coz they realize that EY keeps on lying all the time, and fails to be consistent on any aspect.

I think you need to clarify the EK to EY movers....tell us why they moved!
The majority (except 1!) were AUH based Emiraties!....:}

And besides....
 

And besides all the above....

I didn't win the Bon Jovi Tickets:ouch

Cest La Vie,

Maybe I'll get the next one. (Probably be Englebert Humperdink!)

The truth of the matter is that inflation is a real issue as are rental rates in the UAE. The Airline has to step up to reality in order to accomplish it's expansion plans.

It is a simple formula, keep your people relatively happy in order to get your buisness plans on track. If not the market will bite you in the back side. Today it's a bullish market and guys can find jobs, keep us happy otherwise we will vote with our feet.

Could we get into contact?
 

Planning on moving to Etihad with the fam and also Intl School... Please contact me on [email protected] (dUTCH/English) Thank you.

The only thing I can think of is :

GOOD LUCK to your and your family

all I can say is wow..
I have been working for a Gulf Airline since 2002.. ( north of AUH and south of BAH) and I hear and see alot of crap.. but one thing is for sure.. EY is sounding much, much worse than this mob ( North of AUH and south of BAH ).. although some major problems here as well.. but after reading this thread it does not sound half as bad as EY.. might be wrong but i think i'll give EY a pass as the interview is done and the no poaching thing seems to be on the back burner.. they are happy to take from anywhere it seems and i guess thats as good as a canary in a coal mine.

Good Luck.

EY does has major problems that are not addressed by our current management, they have thrown a little corn out recently to try and keep the crews quiet but when you look closely the only issues that have been addressed are those which also affect them (ie Schooling/housing!).

They are quite happy with their own inflated salary so they looked upon a crew salary increase as a low priority...all this BS that was spouted by the finance guy at the roadshow is utter crap.
Give the crews an increment that keeps up with inflation instead of the rubbish you came up with...stop treating us like idiots.:mad:

where did the thread go????
 

:ugh::ugh:

Been looking for the latest info on etihad and the thread about what to

expect in etihad as well as the whole hiring process can't be found!!

Any ideas where to find it, i looked thru all the differen pages :ugh::{

I think the only ones who moved from EK to EY were those that failed their upgrade. I remember many that didn't make it through the EK interview went up to EY for the job. Worked out well for a quick upgrade...:D

Accomodation is a real problem in the entire region and airlines need to make it priority one. Those coming over should be very specific about what is offered...

Airbussmooth - For a lot of info you requested do a search for this thread

Etihad Employment - threads merged - all you need to know

Saltaire

The majority of EK/EY movers on the T7 were AUH based nationals who most definately did not fail anything...
I believe one expat also made the move.

Stand corrected, thank-you

One expat made the move from EK to EY...

And now, the good news is :

You have to pay to come to work and park your car at the airport

Welcome to ****IHAD

huuuu? When did this happen Alghazal? I went to the airport and got into the car park with my card as usual, only difference is that they force us now to go in from the rental car/employees entrance but it's still free.

Please elaborate if you know something we dont, please dont tell me they stooped that low.

AlGhazal, I know there are problems - but we don't need you to make stuff up - its depressing enough:}. Read the email again. You will only get slugged if you leave your car there more than 9 days.

mAP
 

Have you guys seen the MAP. Our slots are away from the covered car park. The birds are going to hAVE A FIELD DAY. Yes **** truely happens:D

Parking
 

I though the Company sent transport for pilots the same as Emirates. Have they changed that to a transport allowance?

Have any of you received emails from Emirates? Two friends of mine have received offers to interview in the last week. Should I update my application at Dubai? BTW its a rhetorical question, but maybe I should have made a different choice. Maybe if the package improves it wont be an issue.

Sandpit I think it's a rather harsh accusation you make there against Al Ghazal. If you go back and read the email, point number four talks about an annual renewal fee. In a previous email EY said they would refund this. No mention of it here. Also for a new joiner who never recieved the previous email, would interpret it as us having to pay for parking. So technically Al Ghazal has a point.

You think I am going to pay for parking? Not a f---ing chance!! They are supposed to provide transport but have weaseled out of that, and now we are supposed to pay to park our cars?? Etihad is the only reason that ****ty airport is there. Tell the Airport Authorites we aren't going to pay. Unless of course the airport isn't charging and it is just something JH has invented to add to his bonus fund.

Has anyone in the big office actually confirmed we will now have to pay for parking?...:confused:

This may just be another one of those poorly written, misleading, non proof read missives that are regularly churned out....then again it could be another of Hogies money saving scams!!