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FADAC 18th Oct 2007 17:01

New A/C for the goldan falcon
 
Gulf air for sure having new aircrafts :ok:
It was said today by one of the managment capts.
Guys the news is 45 brand new A/C starting from March 2008 with 2 new A-321. Dubai air show will have all the details for all this. And the money for all this is coming from the KIngdom company 3.5 billion $ ..
Well done Gulf Air :D

skywaytoheaven 18th Oct 2007 17:06

Well FADAC, I just hope you are right, hope being the operative word.:rolleyes:

Hmmm 3.5bn US$ thats about 25 320's (50mil each) and 15 787s (150mil each)......

BusTie 18th Oct 2007 17:21

Oh...man.....here we go again with the A321s....!

airpilot_A3xx 18th Oct 2007 17:31

"Mabrook" in advance :rolleyes:

boiler 19th Oct 2007 08:38

From what I have heard, the A321's are not new at all. They are ex RJ aircraft and are about 10 years old.

skywaytoheaven 19th Oct 2007 08:44

10 years old, thats new in Gulf air terms!

jackbauer 19th Oct 2007 08:45

Imagine every other carrier in the Gulf is ordering 380's 350's and talking major expansion and new routes. Meantime GF are trying to get excited about a couple of old 321's and 2 wet leased 737's. Sad state of affairs I'm afraid.:bored:

obsidian 19th Oct 2007 10:34

dont think rj had old a321 they just got some new ones last year me thinks so they must be new ones:E

ODMEA 20th Oct 2007 09:37

MEA of Lebanon was the first carrier in the Middle East to operate A321's, they purcahsed 6 (and have recently ordered 6 A320's and 4 A332's from Airbus) and that was about 4-5 years ago. RJ's are defintaley newer examples. RJ musn't need them are they shrinking?

And jackbauer go easy mate. GF are about to announce new AC orders..so hold off at least to see exactly how "sad",if at all, the affairs turn out to be. Think positive!:)

ironbutt57 20th Oct 2007 16:47

RJ's not shrinking RJ is buying airPLANES instead:}

Da Do Ron Ron 21st Oct 2007 08:35

New aircraft would be nice but at the end of the day GF is still doing the job right.

The family went home last night on the 007 and althought the 340 was a bit tatty the service was far superior than that of EK on the LHR/DXB sector. Even the 320 trip to BAH was good.

Well done GF, you got a few more frequent flyers after last night :D

ODMEA 21st Oct 2007 09:57

Does anyone 'on the inside' of the pink palace actually have some idea of which ac GF are likely to oder next month in DXB?

NO FD NO SRS 21st Oct 2007 10:36

320s wil be replaced by new 320s. and 787s will replace 330s and 340s. off course it is just a strong remour only and the delievery dates are not confirmed yet.

Warbirds 21st Oct 2007 19:07

Delivery dates ?
You can't get a B787 until 2015 according to Boeing. So it will only be just a RUMOUR.:ugh:

mutt 21st Oct 2007 19:36


So it will only be just a RUMOUR
Yep, but if you want a 2015 delivery date you better sign a purchase agreement right now.....

Mutt

boiler 22nd Oct 2007 04:23


You can't get a B787 until 2015 according to Boeing
2017 according to my Boeing sources. And that is if u sign today.

Panama Jack 22nd Oct 2007 04:34

Unless, of course, you manage to get your paws on someone else's slots or options. All nice apetizing rumors. Let's see what Dubai brings.

MAKAVELI320 22nd Oct 2007 07:32

guys have passion its only few weeks and all will be clear my source in boeing or yours not a final say and be optimistic let it be 2015 so what ?at least they will make an order, i think the golden falcon is flyin the right direction keep it up and keep it in green:D

Desert Diner 22nd Oct 2007 10:30


You can't get a B787 until 2015 according to Boeing
Have all the leasors orders been spoken for yet?

Still, I can't see GF considering to maintain a mixed A/B fleet. But then again this is GF:ugh:

Krinkle 22nd Oct 2007 12:56

Kooheji shooting his mouth off again and pre-empting offical announcements by today saying GA is planning to have a fleet of 45 aircraft by 2015, mostly new aircraft.

Mate heard him say it this morning at the WACRA call-centre forum at Gulf Hotel. No doubt in tomorrow's papers.

Sal-e 22nd Oct 2007 18:20

Didn't he mention B747-400s once on GDN a few months back?

repapips 23rd Oct 2007 11:40

You're absolutely right, Krinkle!
On today's Gulf Daily News:
http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story...&IssueID=30217

repapips 23rd Oct 2007 11:48

And further in the Business section....

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/Story...&IssueID=30217

ironbutt57 23rd Oct 2007 13:18

At the end of the day gentleman, all the quotes, media gaffes, and criticisms aside, GF is finally being recognized as an asset vs a liablility to the Kingdom of Bahrain, and will be managed/promoted accordingly..all the inter-nation partner squabbling is over, and the leaders of Bahrain are ready to get on with the mission...so for those of us whom have chosen to stay the course..lets sit back and enjoy and reap the benefits...and to those who have chosen otherwise, best wishes and happy flying...bigger is not always better...

MAKAVELI320 23rd Oct 2007 14:05

well said ironbutt57 cant agree more:D

.Aero 24th Oct 2007 07:23


Mr Al Kooheji said: "If you go to a car showroom and see a better car that the one you came to see you are going to go for that.
Great! Now we know Gulf Air's secret formula to success! We all knew plane shopping was easy.

brassplate 24th Oct 2007 08:32

better than a car from a used car salesman i guess.

left_to_first_class 24th Oct 2007 09:28

Get rid of this idiot
 
We all know that GF has an opportunity to carve itself out as a niche carrier (or boutique airline :)) serving the interests of the Kingdom of Bahrain and making a positive financial contribution.
What GF does not need is some idiot of a chairman, who has no real clue about commercial business, let alone buying planes and probably sees himself wanting to upstage the chairmans' of EK and EY in their home turf.

What fleet size does a GF that serves Bahrain's interest really need - is it 10, 20, 30, or 50+ ? First point is work out where yours business ties are, etc, etc.
This all seems like a bit of dejavu as this exercise was done a few years back with Hogan but nothing. Hopefully someone has dusted off the presentation and is reading it.

Warbirds 24th Oct 2007 18:52

IB57

my girlfriend would not agree with you:E she reckons bigger IS better:E;)

TZZ 24th Oct 2007 21:26

it became MITRE 10 advertisement

FADAC 25th Oct 2007 21:42

Gulf Air plans to expand its fleet to between 45 and 50 aircraft over the next 10 to 15 years in a strategy designed to make it the region's carrier of choice.
It will rebuild its fleet with new aircraft from both Boeing and Airbus, having previously favoured the European aircraft maker for its fleet.
Gulf Air chairman of the board of directors Mahmood Al Kooheji, made the announcement at a meeting held after the opening of the Worldwide Airlines Customer Relations Association Conference at the Gulf International Convention Centre.
He said that the airline already had its strategy in place but it had decided the way forward at two board meetings before Eid.
He revealed that Boeing was back in favour and the carrier had already decided to lease two new Boeing 737s.
The airline is also expected to place orders worth BD350 million for new wide bodied jets as part of a 10-year upgrade of its fleet at next month's Dubai 2007 airshow.
"We have made all the changes we need to make. Now we look to the future, he said.
"We will review the whole fleet and will equip with the right aircraft for our customers.
"What we are deciding now will be the strategy for the next 10 to 15 years.
"We are talking to both Boeing and Airbus. We do not want to be constrained by choosing just one aircraft builder."
The company currently has 36 aircraft and operate 28 on scheduled flights and use the others as back up when flights fail to connect on time. The current fleet has an average age of about 12 years.
Commenting on the move to have both Boeing and Airbus in the new fleet, Mr Al Kooheji said: "If you go to a car showroom and see a better car that the one you came to see you are going to go for that.
"It will be the same when we are buying aircraft. We will encourage competition between the aircraft builders."
He said that on an average, more than 80 per cent of flights were on time and recently it hit 92pc.
Gulf Air has also dramatically reduced the number of cancellations that used to dog its services. :D

MAKAVELI320 26th Oct 2007 20:40

Fadac What ? U Mean Fadec ? And What Is New About U R Statement That Was Already In Gdn Few Days Ago

London's Control 27th Oct 2007 08:39

Gulf Air received their first B738 seen yesterday.

airpilot_A3xx 27th Oct 2007 10:24

Yes, we all read the GF morning briefings in the GDN FADAC.....:cool: and this one is amendment no. 5 for 2007....:rolleyes:

stefan1138 27th Oct 2007 13:34

Has anyone taken pictures of the 737-800? I have heard it is in hybrid colours.

Furthermore when will the second 737-800 arrive?

sharksucker 27th Oct 2007 15:55

Saw one coming into BAH this morning at 0100 UTC. Reg D-AXLE

stefan1138 27th Oct 2007 21:41

Thanks Sharksucker,

think D-AXLE is the first 737. This aircraft was wet-leased to Tuifly (HF) before by XL-Airways.

stefan1138 28th Oct 2007 20:53

So finally there is a picture of the 737-800 and an own thread at airliners.net:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions....main/3675400/

ODMEA 28th Oct 2007 22:39

Nice AC...does it have the flipped up wing tips? Also the inter pic looks like it's an all J Class config? Or it just doesnt have the divider wall between J and Y.....Anyone actually been inside yet and able to comment?

I's also like to see the golden 'condom' - looks a bit bland without..pity as the GF livery is without doubt one the most striking of any carrier. I also really liked the 50th anniversay livery now that was awsome!

Oddy

InTrGYYZ 28th Oct 2007 23:22

looks really sharp compared to the 320s.. haven't been inside, but looks the leather seats are actually in economy. Very nice!


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