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SkyMan2011 1st Sep 2011 07:01

6th Sept.
 
Hi blusky75,
IŽll be applying for 6h September.
Studying a lot my friend.
Good luck for us!
:ok:

flyforfood1 1st Sep 2011 07:28

Zerotohero:

Basic year one = QR21500
Hourly Rate = QR90 x 85 hours = QR7650
Layover Allowance = Avg QR2350 (this cannot be worked out as each place has its own amount for breakfast/lunch/dinner)
Transport Allowance = QR1500

Fleet dependant - Long Haul = Average 33000QR at todays rate -> $9065.

Can't speak for 320 as I have no idea, but less layovers and possibly lower hours as they do longer duty hours (which is NOT paid) :=

zerotohero 1st Sep 2011 10:04

Thanks,

Is it likly you will get sqrewed onto the short haul fleet once you start? I am only interested in the Long Haul as working for Ryan at the min and had enough of going back to base after every flight.

I hear that they just lie and get you to the door then say your on the 320,, at which point I would be saying I am on the next 330 going home thanks.

Airmann 1st Sep 2011 11:11

From what I've heard the 330 is doing 3.5hr India turn around's and night stops at exciting destinations, like sunny Dhaka, Bangladesh. The 330 is not flying to the greatest destinations. Can someone second this, its what I've heard.

flyforfood1 1st Sep 2011 12:10

A330 destinations generally are:-

Munich
Zurich
Manchester
London Heathrow (shared with 777 and A346)
Brussels
Hong Kong
Kuala Lumpur
Phuket
Singapore (shared with 777)
Barcelona
Stockholm
Copenhagen
Dhaka
Bangladesh
Delhi (Any fleet)
Rome
Milan
Nice
Chennai
Riyadh
Dubai (shared with A320)
Geneva
Seoul
Lagos
Algeria
Tunis
Casablanca
Katmandu
Maldives
Karachi
Lahore
Islamabad
Peshawar
Jakarta
Cebu
Manilla (shared with 777)
Oslo (coming soon)

I'm sure there are a couple of others but generally that is what you'd have to go at. Bidding on the whole works well. They seem to be recruiting for ALL fleets just depends on total time and experience, don't think that just because you have Boeing time thats where you will go.....its a lottery, even if you're offered a course and get here, again don't be surprised if it changes. :E

Airmann 1st Sep 2011 12:17

nope guess I was wrong, there are some nice ones on there, I guess when you have 100+ destinations every fleet is bound to have some nice routes (if you'll pardon the pun:p). More than a few on the 330.

Is Delhi a turn around? whats the flight time for the leg?

flyforfood1 1st Sep 2011 12:30

Yes Delhi is a turnaround - I think 3.75 hours per leg. You'll be lucky if you see maybe 1 every 6 months if you bid for what you want/correctly. :}

I missed off:-

Hanoi
Saigon?
Bangkok?

Not sure about the bottom 2 anymore though.

menikos 1st Sep 2011 14:01

Capt Aviator, it took about a month in a half for my friend to be called he just came back from Doha but he's very concern about his sim which wasn't good as he's not airbus rated, he had a lot of trouble to handle the big birg A330.

For me as I know that they are not honest regarding the fleet I know that they will put me on the A320 even if I ask for the B777 and I'm not interested so I wait before applying until I'll have enough hours to pretend for the big birds or simply waiting for the venue of the 787 it's just a matter of time.

nevilinio 1st Sep 2011 17:44

SO Pay deal
 
Apologies if this has already been answered earlier on....

Does anybody have the full info on what an SO can expect pay wise until they pass the line check (Basic, hourly rates, type of accommodation etc etc)?

I'm rated on the A320 series now, so I'm guessing I'd be dumped onto that fleet if I were to get through the assessment.

As I'm already rated, can I assume that I won't be bonded?

Cheers,

Nev :ok:

Capt Krunch 2nd Sep 2011 06:33


For me as I know that they are not honest regarding the fleet I know that they will put me on the A320 even if I ask for the B777
This is the only place I know where candidates NOT rated or experienced comes to an interview and tells them what fleet they want.
Just realize, guys who do that are definitely not put on the top of the pile.

For those who are wondering about the rest, yes, it has happened in the past where a candidate has been offered a specific fleet and upon arrival it was changed to another fleet due to commercial operational needs. That does not happen very often, but can happen.

Turbo-prop pilots as well as tiny jet pilots coming and stomping their feet, banging on tables wanting a widebody fleet, only makes for a good laugh at the water cooler. it does not help your cause.

alinda 2nd Sep 2011 06:42

hi
 
Is it agood idea for get sponsorship because i like
:rolleyes:

menikos 2nd Sep 2011 11:05

Menikos

What they are looking for is the Basic, such as if the approach is not stable would he Go Around or continue.....
Just the basics


I understand but when you never flew the airbus how can you be so prepared I think it takes more than 2 shoots to be confident and stabilized and as far as I know the ceiling that day was 2500 OVC so if you can make it visual in that case you do down to 500ft and no need to G/A but for me it's unfair even if you G/A nothing guarantee you that the next approach will be ok.

I still don't understand the point to use airbus sim for boeing rated pilots.

Gypsy 2nd Sep 2011 13:20

A question about the medical. Does anyone know if they have a BMI limit?

vlatkomk 2nd Sep 2011 16:15

What are the odds of getting on with QA with a misdemeanor offense? A&B.

infiniti757 3rd Sep 2011 20:17

Housing for families.
 
Interviewing next month. I have actually read all 3060 replies to this post ( I am a nerd). I don't get a real clear picture of how the housing is set up out there. I'm married with a daughter, 4 years old.

What type of housing will we be provided?
Where will it be?
Does QR have a single unified housing facility for flight crew or is it all spread about?

I've read about Ain Khaled Gate, some new Barwa complex, Falcon Tower, Pearl Tower and Holiday Villas.

Does anyone have a comprehensive breakdown of the different flight crew accommodations? CA vs FO? Single vs Married? Children or no? Ease of access to the airport? Parking situation? Etc. etc...

I understand there will be some variation but any info is appreciated, especially from someone who is on property. Thanks so much.

skyflyer737 4th Sep 2011 15:56

Qatar Open days
 
Hi - I am considering going to the QR Open day in London next week. Just wondering what the format of the day is and whether they do interviews there or is it simply an information session?

Pilots Open Days - UK | Qatar Airways

Thanks
SF737

Sephore 4th Sep 2011 17:54

Hello,

coming back from Doha for the interview everything ran smooth until the sim, it was a long day and had to wait until the middle of the night for my turn. I was very tired and to be honest I had a lot of problem to handle the airbus (not rated) and with the fatigue my CRM was very poor even forgetting to call for the after T/O checklist as I was trying to keep the big bird on the limit.

To be honest I'm a little bit frustrated as I wasn't as good as I should be and as I use to be when I'm flying the 737.

Nevertheless they are very nice, they don't put any pressure on your shoulder I think they just want be sure that you have a good CRM and good basic flying even if it is difficult because it's a fly by wire and without previous experience it was for me very difficult.

All the best for those who are going to attend the interview (don't expect the T7 it is clearly for the A320 except if you have widebody experience or a lot of hours, but who knows)

Sephore 4th Sep 2011 20:59

Hello,

we were 7 only 1 failed the ATPL test.

Cheers.

B767PL 4th Sep 2011 21:06

Sephmore,

Can you confirm whether any of the gouges on the ATPL test have been accurate that you have seen? What did you use to prepare?

You may have felt it went weak in sim, but perhaps they saw different. Best of luck.

Sephore 5th Sep 2011 10:30

Hello,

well for the ATPL not so accurate many questions not in the file I have but still able to answer it is JAA questions so for the FAA guys it might be a little bit diffucult but they can definitely make it.

I know that I made mistakes as I saw the examiner correcting my test but still below 10 mistakes so I knew it was a pass.

Believe me my sim was terrible the worst in all my life if I do it again I'll know what to expect regarding how to fly the airbus so it will be easier.

All the best :ok:

blusky75 5th Sep 2011 15:43

general feedback
 
Hi Folks, just my feedback...

strating from the travel,, very excellent..I ve been lucky and the Business class was free on both flights!...quality on board really excellent!! hotel fantastic... but let s talk of the assessment:)

we were in 6, with different experience , everybody for FO position...

we started with a presentation and a 330 cpt briefing us abou what to espect from that day and from the Company .

QUIZ: without preparation are very very difficult..JAA stuff, most of the questions about performance....i did an high score ( i saw it during the personal interview)....how i prepare: i did 1000 times all the quiz that it s possible to get around,...personally a friend of mine gave me all the material...i had to correct few questions which were not correct but u can see easily coz sometimes u find 2 times the same question with different answer!! If u have time read ACE Technical pilot int, the chapter regarding aerodynamic, performances and meteo...i read it once but enough to clean my brain from the dust!

ps: all passed the test

HR INTERVIEW: they gave us an hour for the interview.... they were 2 cpts, 1 fo and 1 from hr... they worked in 2 different rooms so basically only 2 are interviewing u.
very straightforward...BE urself ...it starts with "talk about u" then they start to ask examples ( tell me 1 hard day at job, the time u improve the moral of the crew , etcc)... just focus on ur daily life...for sure if you have been flying for years u can find something that fits perfectly....i was quite nervous even if i answered to all) ...it lasts 1 hour circa afterwards hey let u wait 5 min out of the room and then someone will come to give u an envelope....they said to me congratulations and in the envelope there was the appointment for the sim....

5 out of 6 passed,

SIM: 330 and also 320 if free..... very friendly cpts, they help u and don t press u...they tell u that u are there coz they need u and don t wanna let u fail....my first experience on Airbus....very surprised for what i did....IMORTANT.. they brief u very well and give u suggestion how to operate the sidestick..if u follow them u ll do good!!! it s very nice to fly!! and a lot of space..

take off, some turns and climb/descent.... intercept 1 radial and vector for cisual and land...2nd t.o...vector ils, some failure ( they ask u what u woul do) and vectors for ils...between 40min and 1 hour... it depends maybe on ur performance....

I hope this can help,

Be calm, relaxed, i met only very nice people, high standard and i think a nice place where to work....about the bad things that people are saying...maybe it is true, i don t know but any company ha spositive and negative things...just personal decision!! i don t know what my result will be but i m very happy for what i did and this is enough!! Good luck to everybody !!!!

gdukkoq 5th Sep 2011 21:06

Thanks blusky 75 this is a very helpful feedback, got mine coming in 2 weeks. Hope you get the job!

imnotwhoyouthinkiam 6th Sep 2011 08:59

Hi guys, I'm going for the QR interview soon and would like to ask about sporting a light beard? Do you think I should shave it off or not, its a light one, its not a full length beard, but I heard that QR are pretty strict about these things and that it might not come off well with them.

Capt Krunch 6th Sep 2011 11:31


I have a beard, Do you think I should shave it off or not

I heard that QR are pretty strict

it might not come off well with them.
you ask a question then answer it for yourself.. good job :ok:

To be honest with you.. there is plenty of facial hair in this part of the world.. BUT remember one thing, you never get a second chance to make a First impression.

menikos 6th Sep 2011 13:55

imnotwhoyouthinkiam

simple question why it should be a problem ? do you think they are going to fail you because you have a light beard ??? come on, it's not the USA it's Qatar.

I fly and I have a beard and I won't shave it to make people happy and like Capt Krunch told many people with beard even in Qatar Arways this week I saw a captain on the 340-600 with a light beard as it doesn't interfere with the oxygen mask you are fine.

All the best for your interview.

menikos 6th Sep 2011 14:00

Capt Krunch

can you confirm that most of the people will be offer a position on the A320 except if you have wide body experience regarding the T7 or A330.

Thanks.

maestro82 6th Sep 2011 15:09

Soon the assessment, same question...Any chance to get the B 777?

LADY PISCES 7th Sep 2011 03:38

QR MEDICAL
 
hello CAPT KRUNCH
u seem to know almost everythin about QR....kindly guide us about MEDICAL too....what are QR MEDICAL PROCEDURES for PILOTS and how FLEXIBLE they are.....weight...BMI....thanks...
waiting for ur kind reply
take care

Aymane 7th Sep 2011 05:10

QATAR AIRWAYS = JAIL

loc22550 7th Sep 2011 07:00

"Qatar Airways=jail"
Well still remain deeply convinced that commuting contract(especially for 320 skippers) would probably solve LOTS of problems here...unfortunately(and despite several rumors) it's not on the agenda.

Lady Pisces,Gypsy...
Don't worry to much about your BMI...don't think there is any upper limit here,if there is one, it must be pretty high!:uhoh:
The rest.. standard: Blood test, X-ray.ECG, eyes, ears,urine.. test.
No need to be fit as an astronaut.

flightyme 7th Sep 2011 09:16

Interview
 
Hey Folks,

Had the interview at the end of August. 8 of us started on the test only one didnt pass.... Easy enough, ther are two different tests on the day and they are alternated between us so the person next to you does'nt have the same test. Most of the questions are here or on latestpilotjobs.com but easy enough to read the ACE tech exam book.

the interview is simple enough... All the questions are as stated here (no surprises). they are just trying to find out if you can blend in to the enviroment and are not a psycho... The sim starts late midnight almost.. as I'm a Boeing guy flying the airbus was not as easy and didnt go as I would have liked... I got the feeling though that they were more interested in CRM and decision making if you are not stable on the approach by 1000' make sure you call for GA..... The examiner was the 777 fleet captain and a nice guy. They try thier best to relax you and tell you after the sim it would take 2-3 weeks for a response, However in the indoc they tell you a response should be given in about a week... I've been waiting for a reply now for almost two weeks... If anyone has any questions, I'm happy to answer..

Good luck to all.

blusky75 7th Sep 2011 14:23

i think u got the job...usually the send negative answer within 10 days....i hope i won t receive the mail in these period :)

Sephore 7th Sep 2011 15:12

Hello,

for me it was terrible my 2 approaches were very bad chasing the ILS trying to stabilise the A330 but didn't G/A because at once I was visual I was able to stabilise it and land without any problem but it doesn't mean that I made the good choice.

Almost 10 days already we'll see but I'm not confident at all after my sim.

Hope for the best :ok:

F14 7th Sep 2011 15:50

Hi, are you guys looking at DEC of FO positions?

blusky75 7th Sep 2011 19:47

First officer position

F14 7th Sep 2011 20:24

Thanks Blusky 75.

Does anybody have any idea on the breakdown of courses for next year?

Type, Non Type FO and DEC ?

Also how is the internal CU pass rate? I guess this would indicate the situation for DEC courses.

halild1 8th Sep 2011 08:13

recruitment
 
Hi everbody.I was invited to recruitment process on 23rd oct 2011.I think they plan courses on DEC . Because i m not type rated.

ex military f-16 pilot
new b757 pilot

A21 8th Sep 2011 11:52

A300
 
Hi Guys!
I just got an offer from QA to fly the A300. I would like to get some feedback about the roster and future of the A300.
I looked some info about in the post but not luck at all?

Thanks

Capt Aviator 8th Sep 2011 12:03

A300
 
Congrats A21!!

What position did you apply for and when did you apply?

Capt Aviator

blusky75 8th Sep 2011 18:38

A21 but arr u rated on A300?


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