Thanks for the info. My cv should already be on file and I will call them every now and then.
It's getting cold here and am eager to move.

cheers

Who's Kenny??:cool: :ok:

I have called their Chief pilot, I can not remember his name really, I think he was a pakistani with an american acent. He informed me that, I need to get a B1900 type rating even if I hold x amount of hours on a light twin.

I have seen the B1900 in Bahrain, I think it was there for a pretty long time. And it looked like a scrap aircraft!!!

accent...sorry for the mis-spelling in the previous post.

falcon express help needed!!!!
 

hello every1 at falcon,
i hold australian CPL/MECIR with 35 hours dual twin time on seminole and im thinking of going to america to do eaglejet FO program and get Beech1900D type rating and 500 second in command hours, and obviously i would be paying for this ..like sort of buying the time...what are the chances of me gettin employed by falcon after that?

Superman 32.

The plane you think you saw in Bahrain has not been sitting there for a long time. As you might guess CARGO airlines fly at night and Bahrain is one of our layovers. So you might have seen several planes at the blob area in Bahrain. But it's true the planes need a paint job, other than that maintenance is not to bad at Falcon.

Cirrus81

Nothing wrong with your plan but you do require a 1900 PIC rating the local authorities are not to happy with 121.SIC checkrides because it is not printed on the license. But give Falcon a call might have changed by now

coastrider26 thanx for the reply. but can u tell me if those 500 hours r acceptable by falcon as the experience of 300 multi?
and if i do this program and get a PIC rating of beech as well do i meet their minimum requirements or do i still have to do 300 multi PIC?

First time I hear something about 300 Multi PIC but it is possible I guess. Not sure what to tell you bout the minimums at this time.

Some guys have lots of time some not pretty hard to tell you what they require right now.

coastrider,
good to see you're helping guys as usual...keep up the good work man and the pilot who worked out with you in the gym at ORTL is doing OK;) right now , trying to jump thru the hoops.....give my salaams to all .....
masalamiiii

Hey masalama!
 

Are you still wearing those cool ski goggles when you fly?:ok:

Good to hear he's doing well. Because he's a rather bad ATCO hehehe.
Anyway dude check your PM

flying mech,
those were not ski goggles, those were X/ray glasses....didnt u notice the constant smile on my face as I checked u out:ok:

it's the snake in the grass....the sniper....

take care guys , have fun.

TryHere for the 1900 type. seems about the cheapest available and several grand cheaper than Flight Safety....

B.

Just a quick question......

The website in the link above (for the 1900D) gives you an FAA type rating. What is the case if you do not have an FAA licence? I have a Canadian licence, so I wonder about the compatability of the two different standards?

I am assuming that companies like FECA require a min number of multi hours anyway? Do they accept any ICAO licence? Having read up a bit on the company, I am still at a loss as to how you make that "first contact" since I am assuming many pilots will be applying from overseas and not in person? (mighty expensive to get on a plane to DXB and just to show up no?)

Hey all,
thanks for everyones help on here so far, but another question in regards to FECA.

Do any of you know Pilots that have gone out and got their B1900 rating, and then been unsuccessful at FECA?

Is there more likelyhood of being hired if you go see them in person.

How often do they hire?

Thanks again everyone!

Aussie

Aussie,

I haven't heard recently that anybody with a 1900 rating was not hired after the interview but it is a possibility I guess. All I know about it is that one of the F/O's got fired after being here for 2 months I think. Guess he had kind of an attitude problem since nobody wanted to fly with him. I must say it can take up to a year before they'll actually hire you depending on "movement" in the flying corps. I think the average hiring rate at the moment is one pilot a month (this includes capts)

Finals 19,

Kinda weird attitude if you do not want to pay for a ticket for an interview which will give you loads turboprop hours on a reasonable salary with a company that is not going to be bankrupt any time soon. Guess all the guys that pay for their ticket for Cathay interviews etc are just a bunch of suckers. Luckily for you they will do the hiring over the phone if you live overseas.

Yep buy a ticket and jump on the plane, its money well spent, you will stand a lot better chance of being hired if your in Dubai.

It was good to see all last night at the Cellar Bar enjoying the free beer!where were you Coastrider?

Looking fwd to the next one!

Cheers FM

CoastRider26

I think you mis-understood what I was trying to say. I would not be at all adverse to making the relatively minimal investment to go out to DXB in person, it was just that I had no idea how the system worked and was curious as to how people made first contact. If its far more preferable to show up, then that is cool, and thanks for the heads-up on that. No criticism aimed at anyone.

:ok:

Coastal26,

I will be emailing Falcon my resume tonight, but i have a few questions that maybe you can help me with.

I got just on 1500TT with 300 multi command so it looks like i meet their experiance requirements....I hope.

I am more than happy to travel to Dubai for an interview with the Chief Pilot. Is it a requirement/helpfull to have a 1900 endorsement before you go into the interview. Or, are they happy for you to wait till u have a conditional job offer, or at least in the queue.

What progression is there to a command, can you get a command with less than 500 ME command on the 1900 or are you stuck as a F/O for life.

I have an Aussie Commercial, is that acceptable or do you need an FAA Commercial + IFR. What licence to you fly uder, do you have to do some typme of conversion to a UAE licence of sorts.

Whats the money like.

Cheers.

Ok guys,

One of the minimum requirements is that you HAVE an ICAO 1900 rating. Doesn't matter if it's aussie, american, canadian or wherever as long as it is a 1900 PIC rating. They can convert the license here in Dubai. If you do not have a 1900 rating you're basically worthless as far as these guys are considered sounds hard but I GUESS?!? that's the bottom line. They've done one or two typeratings in the past but there are no people in the company at pressent that can do it.

Mail/Fax/email your resume to Falcon they will not send any confirmation that they got it (atleast not in my case and some others) Call Mustafa Ali (chief pilot) ask if he got it. Expect a phone call from him and/or Steven Sanchez about a week before you go online. Simple straight forward no tricky things just looking what kind of person they're gonna hire.

If you are in Dubai and you get the change (difficult) to get an appointment and get to the offices which are in secured area of the airport unfortunately for you guys. I think it would definitely help (but this is a personal opinion I'm not management or office material).

Other than that stay in touch with falcon as thing might go rapid....you'll never know.

Bit of a long story but I hope you guys got an insight on how Falcon works. If somebody else experienced different it might be nice to share it with the wannabees.

Any questions/comments are ofcourse more than Welcome

Coastrider

Finals 19

Check your PM

Coastrider,

Your information is much appreciated. I was considering going to Dubai for a walk inn. But as you said that if their offices are secured nowI think it would be a great risk to buy an airline ticket for that. I will definetely stay in touch via the phone and if there's an opportunity I am certainly willing to visit.
I have a B1900 type on my FAA ATP with about 930 in command so I guess that wouldn't be the problem.

Cheers!

Nah wouldn't be a problem they know the Dutch are the best pilots :D

Veel succes

Thanks you to cosat for the PM, much appeciated. Will give them a call in a week or so.

Just concerned about the level of recruiting, from another thread I have seen they are taking about 1 guy a month, while others say nothing much is happening at all. 6K US is a fairly big gamble without a firm offer. Just wondering how many type rated guys are knocking on their door?

Just curious, can you get a PIC type rating on a 1900 without holding an ATP/ATPL.

Aren't FECA still flying into Iraq? I can't believe there are still guys willing to put their butt on the line for this company, sure the pay is ok, but you can't spend it "upstairs"! Is a few hours in a turbine really worth the risk?

I have heard the stories from a couple of current and ex-FECA pilots, and to me it sounds plain scary at the moment. The only guys that seem to be sticking around are the guys that don't have to do the Iraq trips. Things aren't much better at the rest of your stops in Saudi either from what I've been told.

Ozgrade3, yes you can get a command rating without actually holding the ATPL (in Aus anyway). Why not get your ATPL? Is it just the hours you are waiting on, or the subjects?

@ Coast,

I will do my best.

Bedankt

Get your full ATPL done before you rock up here to Dubai, or later on when you upgrade to Captain at you will have to do the local ATPL exam.

Yes FECA is still flying into Iraq, more trips are being done in the AN12, IL76 as the loads are so big .

Cheers FM

Uh-oh...

Typical Falcon....as long as the Cargo is on time and we get our money.

Till now nobody in Falcon was informed about this:( just shows how much they care about their......cr i mean $$$

Good stuff...
I wasn't expecting anything like a nice and clear picture of what the deals for cargo to Irak were.
Sometimes I'd like to know who exactly I am flying for . Or maybe not...
:yuk: :suspect:

Can't think of words to describe this:(

Well, it is not very hard to see the Russian connection here now is it...........


For the simple minds amongst us:


do the words Cyclone and DOFO ring a bell?:ouch:

I have just been informed that all the new hires have to watch
Air America during the basic indoc to get a good view of the operation

Freightdog81

Boldy dropping of cargo where nobody dropped cargo before

Well well.....fedex expects FECA management to have standards......what a joke!!


FedEx spokeswoman Sandra Munoz said the company expected Falcon to "stick to the same standards we do," investigating subcontractors' safety records and operating authority. "We believe our procedures are still very solid procedures."

In a matter of fact, FECA's standards are much much higher than Fed-Ex and their management staff and seniors are much more professional.

Now as far as FECA's Iraq flights.....those flight are continuously monitored and assessed by line managers and senior staff to maintian acceptable levels of risk. Flying is risky business anyways even if you are flying into state of the art airports and the most peaceful territories. Flying into Iraq is higer risk but also increased profit. One thing compensates for the other and thats what corporate business is all about. Going into business is always with one goal and that is to stay into business. Staying into business requires money which will always expalins risk taking.

I've never blamed other pilots for not comprehending the idea of risk and business coz pilots' worlds always revolved around the rush of flying and compensation for capturing this rush. Who would want a better a job?

ERAU15
 

Hmmmm...... now that is one interesting post of pure dribble.

ERAU,
I know when I was at FECA I often found myself saying "Gee, FedEx are a bunch of amateurs. Why couldn't they be as professional as OUR operation?"

I mean the facts speak for themselves. FedEx is an enormous organisation with hundreds of MD-11s, MD-10s, A300/310s, tens of thousands of staff and a global presence. Falcon has an F-27, 5 1900s and an alleged relationship with a questionable Antonov operator.

"I've never blamed other pilots for not comprehending the idea of risk and business coz pilots' worlds always revolved around the rush of flying and compensation for capturing this rush. Who would want a better a job?"

ERAU you are a patronising git. With an attitude like that you'll never get a better job.

Well,

2daddies I think Falcon is one of more professional outfits in it's playfield...Perhaps FedEx can take some lesson weapons transport 101 or so.

freightdog81
 

This so called playing field you talk of .... please elaborate or did I miss something during my tour of duty...

2dadies,

When is size and scope has anything to do with the way you manage your company? How is 100s of wide body jets influnce the way you go about doing things? Your point there is void and makes no sense. If you are trying to imply that corporate size may influence management performance then maybe Management 101 is something you should consider.

Falcon's Management at all levels is far more proefessional than Fed-Ex and they are highly trained. I also heard recently that they have a new highly qaulaified guy on board taking care of safety and security. If they were not as professional they would've not caught Fed-Ex's discrepancies on daily basis. Fed-Ex discrepancies may include:
1- wrong weight on packages (which affects CG)
2- Undeclared DG
3- Unproper packing of DG
4- Undeclared volumetric weights
and the list goes on

Tunnelvision,

Fed-Ex and Falcon are in 2 different businesses which seems similar but they are different in nature. Fed-Ex is a freight integrator thats been around since the 70s, which is double the time since Falcon was found. Fed-Ex utilizes the hub and spoke system in its operations bringing the loads into their Dubai hub and transferring it to Falcon for distribution in all the Persian Gulf states and Iraq. Falcon operates on one spoke of Fed-Ex's system using bulk loading and more efficient aircrfat for short flights. The transporting of Fed-Ex loads by Falcon is a major operation that determines cost structure for Fed-Ex in the middle east. So yes.....2 different playfields and Falcon masters the one its in. Also remember that Falcon is not small either coz its a part of a big group that consists of 8 diffeent companies under the same umbrella Falcon Express Inc. (FEI)

ERAU,
Once again, I refer you to my previous "patronising git" comment.

I'm a little uncertain how enhance the logic of my argument - I'll make it as simple as I can:

1)Corporate size DOES influence management performance.

2) Having hundreds of wide-body jets DOES influence the way things are done.

3) I can assure you that although FedEx DOES experience some discrepanies with their cargo (think about the sheer scale of what they do), Falcon would "catch" a lot less of them than you might think. And funnily enough, it is left up to THE PILOTS to do so.

4) Even when these "discrepancies" are caught, it always made me laugh how much pressure FECA management placed on PILOTS to take it anyway.

ERAU, Falcon Express is operated at a minimally efficient level in order to achieve the task it has been assigned. This is not a bad thing per se, but you'll forgive me for dissecting your blindly loyal and frankly baseless attempt to make FECA look like a jewel in the global air-cargo industry crown.

FECA has an F-27 and 5 1900s. If you cannot see the inanity of your own argument ("When is (sic) size and scope has (sic) anything to do with the way you manage your company?"), then I suspect Management 101 might be more appropriate for you.

Could not have said it better myself 2 Daddies

One thing I would like to add as that the only asset FECA has had is the pilot work force it has employed. During my tour of duty, I saw a bunch of guys who were professional, honest and willing to go the extra mile. If it wasn't for the past and present guys operating the flights under sometime very difficult conditions FECA's crises management model (which is how they operate 110% of the time) would be at a loss.

Now ERAU just remember there have been a number of guys flow through FECA over the years and most are grateful for the hour building and the good times had outside of WORK in Dubai (me being one of them). But may I add one thing, all of us that have been there know exactly what goes on...... so please stop your dribble....... or stories might start to flow.

Now I'm off back to Russia !! anyone coming with me..

P.S ERAU I think you will find the umbrella company you talk of is actually "Falcon Aviation Group" which is a combination of Falcon Express, Falcon Express Cargo Airlines (FECA) and Falcon Aviation Services. Main Office in Dubai "The Crown Plaza" but lets not forget the British Virgin Islands.......