Nosirrah,4Holer Ploer,
Nil Water,

Hi mates.... I really appreciate your positive
feedback that's great! from the sounds of it
I would definitely be interested in joining a
company like that. Couple of things I want
to find out:...if you guys happen to know
name and Tel. # for the Dir.of Ops. and
when would you suggest be a good
time to get hold of him/her without being
stopped at his Sect.'s desk.

Nosirrah,

Since you are currently wroking for FEC,
what sort of average time pilots are being
hired on with FEC? By the way you
mentioned type rated on 1900; is it a
must, what I mean is could a person get
type rated through FEC after being hired
on. Any feed back is wonderful weather
it's positive or negative it all helps and if you
fell comfortable in sending me a message....
don't hasitate please do..


Thanx.....Cheers.

.......I am buying the next 2 rounds in Dubai......excuse me

....... can we get some Shish Keobobs and Sheesha!:) ;)

S,
The Director of Ops is Steve Sanchez (nice guy, very friendly), best time to call him is 11am local (Dubai is +4hrs GMT.) Fone number is +9714 2826886.
(If you go to 4HP's second link (above), and trudge through the 3 pages, you'll find a lot more info about the company.)
According to a source still with Falcon, the Beechcraft 1900 type rating is still a must along with the 300hrs multi, (the last 3 new hires had these requirements).

NW

Alright I'll bite, Nil Water.

For starters, I reckon "nosirrah's" handle is a f*%king disgrace.

Possibly surpassed only by someone so spineless as to pretend to be a 'former employee' or to have a 'friend' employed by FECA and then mouth off on this forum, when the reality is that they themselves are a present employee. Disgrace.

As for any negative comments made, the old adage of where there is smoke, there's fire, is worth bearing in mind.

I think you'll find that most of the guys working for the company are well aware of the benefits of the job. Most of them worked hard to get there. And it has provided an important step, and continues to do so, for plenty of guys. However there are some fundamental problems there now which did not exist in the past, or at least have escalated, and for the good guys in the outfit (the 'whiners') it is hard to stomach the situation. Why be content with crap when things have been sweet in the past and could be notably better in the future?!

Could be worth thinking about. Don't think ANYONE enjoys low morale at work eh! As it does effect everyone...

Ramadan mubarak

TK

check your pm
 

hey sstein,
check your pm regarding your request.
And tonto,
I'm really surprised by your post, obviously the comments I've made about the company I work for have hurt you deep enough to call me a disgrace.I'm sorry, but that's the way I think about my company and you can't please everyone ,can you?
Please try and control your anger , anger can markedly affect your performance in the cockpit(I hope you don't take it with you on flight).

Every company has things that can improve but improvement should be done constructively and practically.Dialogue is the only solution for problem solving , so i think that this company has all the potential and we should work with the company in solving them.

Take care and fly safe....:)

'nosirrah' :

Not sure how you came to the conclusion that your comments have caused offence. It was your handle (that means 'user name') I passed comment on. Personal and thinly veiled. Lucky your victim doesn't know who you are eh.

Couldn't agree more that communication is the way forward. So if you've got issues with the individual that you refer to in both your handle and also your posts, why not engage in a 'dialogue' with him?? Sure he'd love to chat.

Do you really believe that the key character/s in the company that is/are behind the problems is/are open to constructive criticism? More likely to be regarded as dissent and guarantee malicious rostering I would suggest...

As for anger in the flight deck - when you say it can markedly affect your performance, is that for better or worse?! Seems to me that the guys that might have something to be miffed about in the company fly pretty well! Maybe that's the difference eh!?

Sounds like bad CRM though doesn't it. Whereas for a good CRM you can't go past Ravi's in Satwa...

TK

Nil Water,

"I think the guys at Falcon need a reality check, it seems they have not only lost focus on what they hoped to get out of the company but have totally forgotten what they have come from and what Falcon has given them. "

Don't you think that this comment may be out of line considering the fact that you only speculate about people agenda's based on what you hear on magnum or rumors!??

I know how hard I have worked to be within Falcon and what sacrifices I have had to endure. In addition, I know what Falcon has given me and what to expect out of it but you cannot dictate as to the fact that "we" have forgotten where we have come from and what Falcon has given us. Some of the problems within the organization are expected but you do not have the right catagorize or call people names (whiners) because you may have personal issues with them. I would have expected more out of a person with your stature and responsibility. Contradictory don't you think?

As a matter of fact, I know that I have heard you on many occasions speaking in dirogatory terms about the company and the director of ops you so proudly speak of.... who is calling the kettle black?

Another question? Why do you keep switching handles? Do you get a kick out of playing two sides and winding people up?

Just my opinion...."life is full of hippocracy"

Crawl back under a rock Nosirrah

hello www
 

dear www,
Have we met before???
U have obviously mistaken me for an arachnid of the insect species.....tsk..tsk..

As for everyone from FECA, wishing you all a very happy eid(belated) and the season's best greetings.Hope we have a wonderful new year too.

:)

Is he the one with the crooked eyes??

How can it be good if certain individuals are still employed by FECA???

May the next year bring justice to Falcon!!



Please Lord, save us!!!!

hi there
 

just adding a personnal question
i would really love a job there and am trying to get in touch with s.sanchez , but i am wondering if any of you knows if they would be ready to give you a promise of employment before you go invest in a fairly expensive type rating .Also How long do you normally stay on the right seat (I have 3500 hours with 700 ME and some 300 turbine ) ?? Do you need to do a CRM course ?
Which destinations are you guys flying to ?
I visited the UAE in May and even had a go flying A6 FAA in Fujairah , was lots of fun ...definitely recommend Fujairah aviation center for pleasure flying .Great new 172's there .

hey perceval
 

With your kind of experience and time , you stand a very good chance of employment with us.Yes, you should get in touch with Mr.sanchez, our DO.
As for the promise of a job, as far as I know most guys who've been employed by FECA did take the risk of getting a type rating without the promise of a job , but if you talk to both the D.O and the chief pilot and you do well in an interview(if called), you should get the job.I know of very few guys who've done the type rating and still without the job , and mostly it's because of very low time or experience.
If I were in your shoes ,I'd get in touch with the company , even maybe a trip down here's a good idea to meet them in person, then go do the type rating and keep in touch until the call for an interview, it's a risk that I myself did take but it worked out fine...anyway, that's my own viewpoint.
Staying on the right seat depends on movement in the company ...there have been times when upgrade was under a year and slow times when upgrade can be two and a half years.....it all depends on the health of aviation as a whole and people moving on to jet jobs elsewhere.:p
Destinations we go to are all the major places in the arabian gulf like bahrain, doha, kuwait, jeddah and so on and few more destinations in the pipeline,I've heard...:D
CRM course is not a prerequisite in getting the job but I'd do one if it was convenient and not too expensive to get, it's always good one to write on the CV..
Well that's about it and best of luck in your job hunt ..hope this helps
:)

nosirrah,

You mention that only a very few guys with the Beech 1900 type rating fail to get a job and that these people have very low hours or experience. What do you mean by this ? 250 -500 hours and fresh out of Flight School?

cheers
 

Nosirrah , thanks a lot for that .Duly appreciated .
I am now waiting for a reply from mr Sanchez and will see from then .
What is a good place to do a Be 1900 C typr rating ,out of curiosity ?

re...
 

haselled,
The min required is 300 hrs twin and a type rating , so there have been times when guys have 400 TT,100 hrs twin ,get the type and then hope to get the job , in today's very competitive aviation job market, it's not just having the min's that counts, for the applicant to be hired, he/she needs to stand out among the rest in terms of experience, total time, any special and related qualifications etc. etc.It's simply a case of demand and supply...we have hired guys with a total of 500 hours and guys with more than 3000 hours to the right seat, but they all had the minimum required time.
Then there's this damn thing called professional attitude and courtesy :D .... how a candidate talks and behaves with the Ops manager and chief pilot does help in securing the job, unfortunately that cannot be taught anywhere and I think does influence the decision making a lot...so a guy might have a lot of time and experience but really pisses off the boss by demanding a job..believe me, it does happen.That's the reason that networking plays such a major role in aviation , a good word from a friend always helps:)

perceval,
I cant help u much on that, pre 9/11, US was the best and least painful($$$) option but all that has changed.I think flight safety is one of the places u can do it at, but quite expnsive.Ihave heard of some who've got it from S.Africa and australia,but sorry :confused: , i don't have the addresses u'll have to check around , maybe someone else on this thread could help......anyone???

I am new to this forum and was just wondering if i would be competitive to the current times that Falcon is looking for. I have approximately 1700 total with 540 multi. I have always wanted to live in Dubai (love the culture) and heard nothing but good things about Falcon. I have tried calling Mr Sanchez but i keep missing him. The assistant who answered most of my questions (very nice individual) on the phone advised me to get my type rating. I scheduled a class date for january at flight safety for the 1900 and am putting all my cards in one basket so that i can work at falcon. Would you suggest this? I am also thinking about flying to dubai just so i can talk and meet mr sanchez and put a face on that resume. Any help would be appreciated.

thank you
and eid-mubarak

re-hi
 

hi , could you tell me what is the cost of the type rating at flight safety by any chance .
nosirrah , Does S.Sanchez normally take a long time replying to e-mails or would it be worth calling (the cost from here is horrendous ) .
cheers .

I would be happy to answer any questions. I spoke to a rep from Flight Safety and he told me that a type rating would cost approximately US$ 4400. The training is out of New Jersey. Additionally, room and board is not included so i figured out to be $6000 total. I look at it as an investment into my future,..just like getting a MBA. If you need any additional info, please feel free to email me.

How do you like flying out of Africa? It must be exciting.

aa

hello forum N
 

hey forum N,

Best of luck in the job hunt out here, yea like i said it's a good idea to come and meet in person as well ....your time looks fairly competitive, incidentally, how did you build it up, instructing?charter???
4400$ , wow :eek: , are you sure it's not 14,400$ for the type???? at flight safety?I would check that again and make sure it is the type they're giving for that price...
Perceval, sorry again , have never corresponded to him by email , would not know....
regards,

:)

Thanks for the info Nossirah. I checked with Flight Safety and they mentioned that it costs $4400. I will double check it. I have a checkride scheduled with them in january. I really want to live in Dubai and fly for Falcon. I had couple students from emirates and they spoke highly of them. I used to fly for a night cargo operation in california where i built majority of my time. I work as a flight instructor now at US Air Force Academy training future fighter pilots. I am planning on giving Mr Sanchez a call next week. Do you know if they have many people in their pool or do they hire based on each person leaving or advancing. I am also planning on coming to dubai next month. Would you recommend showing up without scheduling an appointment (sometimes it looks bad).

re:appointment
 

hey forum n,

when u do get in touch with Our Ops Director, you can always tell him that you're quite interested in the job and intend to meet him in person when you fly down here...also do let him know of your past night cargo experience and current job...I would think that exudes enthusiasm for the job and should get a positive reply from him.
Besides, you never know who's reading these posts and he could be anticipating your call when you talk to him (a wild guess) .;)

I have heard that we do have a lot of candidates interested in getting employment with falcon , how we employ is something I am unaware of , that's upto the chief pilot and ops.director.

Thanks for the info nossirah and perceval. I am definitely going to give Mr Sanchez a call and try to schedule an appointment. I hope that i can return the favor to you guys someday and if you are ever in san francisco, send me a message.

Perceval, i know people in new jersey where flight safety does its training and you can always stay at their place. They are a bunch of students with an open door policy. They dont mind. It will help to reduce the cost if you are interested.

merry x-mas
 

Forum N , thanks a lot for all that .I guess the cost at FS in not as bad as i thought i would be .I guess it is the cost sharing with another trainee .I'll get intouch if I need to meet you out there .And Yeah flying around east africa has been very exciting , diverse , fun ... Will definitely never forget it .
Still no reply from mr sanchez (sniff) so I might try callin him as well after new year .
Merry Xmas and Happy new year to you all .

FE salary
 

With regard to B1900
Any one know the requirements for a command.

And anyone know the respective Command/F.O Salarys

Cheers

Falcon
 

OK, all of u guys who are unsure about Falcon,

The Chief Pilot is actually a very good friend of mine. From a totally outside perspective, US commuter CRJ pilot, having lived there in the ME, I can say that, if there is any foreign 1900 operator, specially in the ME - Africa area, worth flying for, then it has to be Falcon, hands down.

A good friend of mine, 1900 Capt., is tired of the 1900 commuter stuff he has to put up with in the US, and wants to go there and does not mind starting out again as a FO.

Moreover, the pay is good and you end up saving up most of it anyway, because of the no-tax status, free housing, low cost of living, etc..

Good luck u guys, hope it works out for the better.

Hi everybody,

I've read with great interest all the replies regarding FECA, all I know is that it is very difficult to find the "perfect" airline, you always have some positive and negative aspect ...
Anyway, I would like to apply with FECA but is it true that they are not recruiting pilots above 30 years old, I am 35 ... but I have 3000 hours on BE-1900 ... any info would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Falcon Ex package...
 

I believe that the salary is around 30,000 USD for an F/O, but do the company pay for accommodation, flights home, residency/work permit related costs etc?

Also any news on the ATR?

Any comments appreciated.

Cheers

haselled

Salary is $29K + about $3K per diem.
Medical coverage is provided for. That's about it.
You'll have to find your own accomodation, which will easily take up to a third of your salary. And that's not even going upmarket.

As for the ATR.......who knows.

Thanks JustFlyin',

Appreciate your feedback. A couple of other things, what sort of roster do you guys fly? Is it a 5 on 2 off type, or 6 on 4 off or does it vary month on month? I'm guessing with night freight, you would need some sort of consistency to keep the body clock in some kind of order.

Also, when is the best day to catch Steve Sanchez in the office and at what time?

Cheers

haselled

Fatigue and bodyclock are two word that do not excist in the Falcon Express dictionary.
There is no fixed roster in that company. Besides, it changes about 10 times a month anyway.

Goodluck trying to get a hold of Steve Sanchez. I'd say best time to try is between 11AM and 4 PM local. (UTC+4) Except Fridays and Saturdays

Whats the status at Falcon Express?
 

Hello,

If anyone can tell me about the status at Falcon, if they are hiring or not. What are the average hours of a new FO at Falcon?

From what I have heard, they have taken on a couple of new guys recently. They have a wide choice of pilots to pick from at the moment.
Minimum requirements used to be 500-600hrs total with about 200 multi and a B1900 type. These days, a couple thousand hours would be competitive with time on type being a plus.

This very informative Press Release regarding FECA has just been brought to my attention! Just brilliant...

........

Edited to protect the whereabouts of the Information Minister as he is still on the run.

TK

aah forget it mate, nothing happening, they might be taking a few guys, but no rating, no job :mad:

wooooow...
 

hey tonto,
that's quite a funny link but seriously though , in reply to the original post , yes we have hired some guys out here at FECA and we're supposed to get another 1900 very soon ....

how's your flying out there in CX , man hope things get back to normal soon , beacause as you very well know in aviation, we all benefit if aviation as a whole's doing good, so best of luck out there.

skaz, you're right too, with the present employment scene around the world, it's a pick and choose time for FECA and I heard we're being flooded with CV's , good news is we're flying more and new routes too and aircraft getting spruced up tooooo...so hell ,can't complain , still enjoying it:O

Nosirrah,

I know Falcon cannot offer type ratings at present. Do you know if this is likely to change at all i.e. provide type ratings for those prepared to fund them themselves?

The reason I ask is that it is impossble to get this rating at present without forking something like £8500 sterling in Denmark. Although I believe restrictions in the US are being loosened soon.

Cheers

haselled

P.S. When was the last UAE based pilot taken on, or is all recruitment now external?

From your last post hasselled I hope "Those prepared to fund themselves" is with regard to the payment of your rating, however if you are still inclined to offer your services for free as you have indicated before then why don't you complete an Instructors rating and join an AEROCLUB. It's a great way to build hours and it is the path that many professional pilots have taken in the past. Once you have built up some hours and experience then try sending that c.v out, who knows you might be offering prospective employers something else instead of free labour. Just an idea !!

nosirrah good for you mate, always great when the co. expands and flies new routes etc

Me? I just dont like being lied to and fed bull****, from management, ANY management.

Tunnelvision

Thanks for that illuminating piece of advice. However, my question about Falcon's future ability to provide a type rating still stands...

re...haselled
 

Haselled, you're absolutely right , we don't offer type ratings out here at present , but that'as to the best of my knowledge.....

Is it going to change ??? , last time I spoke to one of our training captains regarding this he said this is definitely something they're considering , as for time frame .....no idea.. but I've heard this for a long time now and to really play it safe you'll have to get your own type rating......:ugh:
Our last hire was a UAE based pilot who had the type rating done in 2001 and had been waiting out here for the job, luckily he had another job out here(non-flying) and the company called him one day b'cos they needed an F/O trained up quick.....lucky I guess....

Well taht's about it folks and best of luck to everyone...... :rolleyes: