The Exodus Begins at QR?
 

I hear from a reliable source that 57 cabin crew have left QR in the past 2 weeks!!

I know a few are heading South to Etihad, including a Performance Supervisor and other highly experienced crew.

Will AAB ever get the message?

I doubt it!

Also strange that no airline has launched operations to Doha despite QR expanding rapidly, their bilaterals should have brought in loads of major and small airlines, the only ones they have gained are Lufthansa and Garuda Indonesia both in code share and small airlines like Aero Asia and Shaheen Airlines from Pakistan, thats about it.

....
 

Homesick,

how about BA, don't you think the British would rather fly for BA then for QR where there's nothing to do?

Greetz

WHY ARE YOU ALL LEAVING??????
 

SO GUYS,

WHAT IS THE STORY WITH PAY AND CONDITIONS AT QR
HOW COME YOU GUYS ARE BEHIND EVERYBODY ELSE. ARE YOU NOT A VERY RICH COUNTRY, ARE YOU NOT A NATIONAL CARRIER,ARE YOU NOT THE FASTEST GROWING AIRLINE IN THE WORLD THAT TAKES YOU PERSONEL.......AH THAT IS WHY YOU ALL WANT TO LEAVE,I HEAR A LOT OF THE RENTS GOING UP,NO PROBLEM IM SURE THE HR DEPT. WILL PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS TO HELP YOU GUYS......AH THAT IS WHY YOU ALL WANT TO LEAVE.
I HEAR THERE IS A PACKAGE ON THE DESK, GATHERING DUST...........AH THAT IS WHY YOU ALL WANT TO LEAVE

Dupont of course they would...except me cos i'm biased!! But I am, and I am sure you are, glad to be out of it and enjoying life elsewhere with a better company who look after their staff.

Cheers

HR

Newscaster, this appeared in July

Thats an interesting development regarding British Midland to Doha, I wonder if they will be interested in expanding eastwards, they should though to break the monopoly of British Airwayys in the region i.e, infact another website mentioned them also being allowed to fly to Pakistan.

But Qatar should be getting more airlines from other countries that they fly to as well.

Qatar Airways generally
 

The bmi approval to fly to Doha is something that has been in the pipeline for quite some time. Indeed, Star Alliance is viewing Doha as it's future Middle East hub, with bmi, Lufthansa and, eventually, Qatar Airways, all operating an enhanced hub and spoke network out of Doha. Look out for reciprocal greater QR codesharing across the bmi European and US networks. This is inevitable and will happen shortly.

However, in terms of market share, QR - who are less reliant on financial backing and funding than the others, will simply undercut all other players and retainmarket share.

e.g. It is highly unlikely that TCN traffic from Dhaka, for example, will arrive in Doha and wait twelve hours for the next bmi flight to LHR. Instead, QR will retain this lucrative traffic through competitive pricing.

ETIHAD AND QR EXODUS

Yes - the very same is a fact. Indeed, there are not one but two QR Performance Supervisors leaving to joinEtihad, as well as several crew and CSD's, many long serving. One of the PS has alread resigned and thereis already at LEAST one QR CSD flying in the Etihad uniform!

Sad......


Last but not least, I hear that QR will cancel their orders for the A346HGW and replace with 773-ER.

Cockpit Crew also moving nest door!
 

Yes Sir, I love QR; but, I believe your company has a lot more to offer as far as compensations, treatment and a relax working environment. The training was more than papers and reading material!! It was fun!!! and enjoyable! STC's great to get along and no long faces or intimidations! Culturally a great experience.

:cool:

QR Exodus
 

So, A300 Man, do you think GAS can give me a job then?!!!;)

Good to see you back on here!

HR & Co

Where is the initial post?

Exodus at QR???? Really? Now thats a surprise, why would anybody want to leave this company.

Its getting worse here, nothing is changing . Only the world markets are opening up and thats a really good thing!

:yuk:

I have heard too that QR trainers are very rude and there been instances of trainee crew quitting because of that, one thread at another forum said that they were so obnoxious that at times osme of the girls would actually start crying and yet they would be taunting them, the topic dealt with the posters female freind's experience who quit during training.

Try telling that to Akbar!
 

I know that some of the crew were initially "scared" to make the move, but I am pleased for the ones who have. They deserve better treatment and I sincerely hope that they receive it at Etihad.

Good luck to them.

Even Bahrain and Gulf Air were never so overly ambitious in the good times when BAH was handling loads of airlines from the east and the west Qantas, Singapore Airlines, Pan Am and British Airways Concorde service and GF was reigning supreme in the region(there was no Emirates). I realised QR were over doing it when they orderd the A380 quite obviously a prestige/image related mistake, if they need big aircraft they should have stuck with their sole 747-200 and later gone for the 744 if the image thing was so important.

Qatar has yet to gain its status as a competitor to Kuwait, Bahrain, Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

Latest news I have heard is that its now 85 cabin crew and 24 flight deck have now quit the ever so popular Akbar Airways. Also 3 aircraft grounded as no one to fly it

Things seems to be looking up for the bouncer.

Anyone got any further info. Probably wont bother the little man anyway (oops called him a man my mistake sorry)

Regards
GC:ok:

From my own experience at QR I can't say I thought the trainers were rude, only tough. If you made a mistake during training you had to proove them wrong later and that was difficult because at that time they were more attentive and could question you.

Only one or two of the trainers are qualified for the position. Most have just been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time...attached to AAB's rear!

How much weight does QR put on type rating or would a respectable total time make any difference.

Hey Saw
I was invited to a A320 F/O interview about 2 weeks ago. They confirmed my interview date with me and then asked for my license which I sent to them. I few days later I recieved an email from them uninviting me to the interview because I did not have a type rating. Pretty unprofessional of them.
Good Luck

Krotch

Hey Krotch,

That kinda answers my question. Thanks man:yuk:

It is confirmed that only one EX-QR csd (HT) is working at Etihad and not any other yet.plus another EX QR CSD (GD) has got the job and starting early next year in a different role.

Crew who are already employed with QR has not been given the job.there obviously is a QR-Etihad ban.

Regarding 53 Resignations,..thats not true,it is however true many crew including Senior grades left the company,but not as many as 53.

I don't know about the exodus at QR "beginning"?

It's been going on on a permanent basis for the past three years at least. And until Snackbar gets overthrown it's likely to continue. The good news is that everyone who has left is much happier than they were in miserable, boring Doha. There is life after QR and a much more enjoyable one at that.

Now, Now ladies..

On a lighter note, Over the past couple of years I 'am enjoying my time at QR.. what more could one ask for.. The money is always in the bank on time, the Aircraft Maint. is good. The destinations and layovers (fleet dependant) are great. I live in a very tropical climate were the sun shines in blue skies at least 360 days a year.. and it has to be said, that this is certainly the safest place, in terms of crime that I have ever lived in my life.

I have worked for much worse companies, I have worked harder for much less money, I have lived in much more dangerous environments... so I really can't see the problem here,, and if so many people are so unhappy,,, why do they stay??? .. But of course many leave.. this place is not for everyone.. But certainly not as bad as some would make it out to be.

It's all what you want to make of it...

Keeping in mind.. It’s their country, and their airline, their airplanes, their uniforms and their money in my bank account.. so I will do things their way or I’ll get out.... stay out of the politics and everything is quite good..


Sometimes the journey can be just as good as the destination

bang, very interesting information given on the post.

how sure are you that "GD" is joining Etihad and how do you get these information? if you cannot write on the forum,why not PM me.I would realy like to know this.

By the way who is CSD "HT"? maybe I just dont get it,but been there so for many years and cannot simply get the name right.

I am certain about what is written there. Check your PM.

GD would have been an excellent asset to Etihad, or any other carrier, whether in the cabin or the classroom. Pity previous employer (QR) were too stupid to realise it.

Anyway, their loss is someone elses gain, and all that............

He's happy now, which is what he deserves...

I don't understand what everybody is complaining about.

QR is an equal employer and treat their crew fair, but there are worse employers, even in modern countries with unions. People who seem to be complaining most about working conditions and how they treat others, are those from countries that have unions and compare it how it works in their countries. That's wrong.

Many of us who worked and work with QR are dependant of our salariesy and have never seen this amount of money before. I hadn't seen so much money before and working for them was luxury. The working conditions were good and I never felt once used. They paid me money and gave me accommodation. What did I have to do? Go to work and do what I was told. We all have obligations when it comes to work, no matter where you work.

But if you come from a country where you are used to certain regulations and have a union behind you that pretects you, maybe QR is not the place for you.

Ayomide,

I am glad that you enjoy(ed) your job at QR...I did too, to an extent, but I was not allowed to perform to my capabilities due to the management of BG and his pet SnaKe. (neither were any of the CSDs/CS)

I went to work and did my job, enjoyed the country as much as possible...played golf, enjoyed the sea and enjoyed the nightlife to an extent as well. I had 3 circles of friends: one QR and two outside where I really enjoyed my days off.

From your posts I gather you are relatively young and have not had previous Gulf experience and probably not much work experience. ( I apologise if I am wrong)

I will never regret my time at QR, but I will always state facts about what went on, what goes on and what will continue to go on, as long as AAB is at the helm and Master Bates and Seaman Stanes are involved with the Cabin Crew!!

I wish you well as I do anyone previously or presently involved with the airline....the exodus will continue...and continue...and continue...

All the best.

HR

I enjoyed my work with QR all the time. Being far away from home was worth the money. QR was my first experience in the Gulf and that was good.

RJA is looking for female cabin crew, KU also I think. I should give them a try now!

By the way, I wrote you a PM.

Latest is that,QR crew GIRLS cannot entertain even the female friends after dark.male members of the team are getting security down at the crew buildings.

SNAKE is keeping a very low profile these days,some say he sees whats posted here on Pprune and now trying to be the good guy.(which he never means) BG keeps on showing the SNAKE Pprune comments.

.....Give it afew weeks,snake will be back the usual nasty way!!

HR, answer to your 2nd page Question:-

GD works for a better Airline now.and will be working in a higher position for another better company by next year.

He certainly deserves the best.new Airline recognized his capabilities and are making good use of him,whilst QR got involved in Politics and lost him and a few good others.

Very accurate comments, Bang.

Long gone are the days when the Snake's briefings were monitored by the the then HOCC! His reputation in his previous airline was just as bad! One of his many problems is that he will never admit he is wrong. I recall a conversation with him where I corrected him regarding a crewing issue and offered proof. He called crewing and was told the same, yet he would not back down...well now I hear he is moaning to the PSs and such about the state of the airline (crew wise)...

When premium flights go without a full crew complement (no CS) it really is a bad sign...pax have complained and rightly so.

I also hear that the crewing dept had a virus sent and they lost track for a few days! Calling crew who were on overseas trips!!

Surprised that Mr. Misery BG is still there. He is such a wet blanket and a useless manager...spinelesss. Better off staying on the Golf Course having conversations with himself.

Bang: I am in touch with GD and aware of his movements. Good to hear.

Bang: "QR crew girls cannot entertain even the female friends after dark", what is this suppose to mean?

No offense, but I can understand why you and all others who say they work or have worked feel miserable at QR. If you keep believing that everything is bad, get upset about everything and sneak into other people's business, of course you are getting yourself into problems.

During my time with them, never once did I ever experience anything of what you are saying. Nor did my friends and many of those are still there very happy!

Just leave and all your problems will be gone in no time.

Ayomide,

Thanks for the comments,but we all have reasons for sticking to this place or reasons have been made for us,to stick to this place.

It is a pleasure to hear that you had good time at QR plus your current friends are enjoying QR. I,however find it more than difficult to belive.because NO ONE is happy here.

* What I meant in my previouse post was,that female crew are no more allowed to have even "female friends" in their apartments.
...sure you got the entertainment part mixed up,isnt it? hehe...

:)

No job is worth all that effort you keep writing about. There are better jobs elsewhere. No bonds can be signed for cabin crew either, because they don't do such bonds! Which means you are free to leave, today.

Talked to a friend yesterday in Qatar and she sounded happy!

Cabin Crew DO sign bonds and I have signed bonds in the past and present as well.

easier said " you re free to go" than done.

Happy for your friend who is happy there.must be 01 in 1000.

Yes, bonds for each month, but not any longer. I worked there, I know what it's like.

The fact remains that crew are constantly being ill treated at QR. Whether it happens to you or not is irrelevant. It DOES go on!

A long serving CSD has recently resigned and is having difficulty receiving her clearance payment.

One particular PS (YB) has been calling a CSD saying that his PAs are not procedure. Meanwhile she operates a flight and tells the CSD NOT to use the whiteboard in the briefing (which is procedure) despite the fact that someone lost out on promotion for something similar!!

YB is the same as BG and SK. Brown nose all the way. She waltzed into QR as if she was better than anyone else. Was fast tracked up the ranks whilst more suitable and better qualified people were pushed aside. She has no idea on how to manage her crew and criticises the slightest thing even though she has no idea about procedures!

Oh and check this out: A PEW flight was paired DOH PEW LHE DOH. The flight went with "6 crew" (plus the CSD I believe) and AAB came on board and strictly told the CSD that the full service had to be done!!!

...and then there's the CSD who reported two female crew for having a beer with dinner. One beer!! They were well within the limits...of couirse they were both sacked!

As long as this kind of crap goes on, the airline will never last.

Oh and Ayomide. the above are all from a reliable source. Just because you don't hear about these things does not mean they don't happen. As Bang says, we are glad you enjoyed your time, but we are posting facts as we see them. I am very happy where I am but still have many friends at QR who cannot leave for one reason or another. I feel for them. It is a forum to discuss and not start a slanging match.

Cheers

HR