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The Exodus Begins at QR?

Old 26th Nov 2003, 19:05
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The Exodus Begins at QR?

I hear from a reliable source that 57 cabin crew have left QR in the past 2 weeks!!

I know a few are heading South to Etihad, including a Performance Supervisor and other highly experienced crew.

Will AAB ever get the message?

I doubt it!
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Old 26th Nov 2003, 20:24
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Also strange that no airline has launched operations to Doha despite QR expanding rapidly, their bilaterals should have brought in loads of major and small airlines, the only ones they have gained are Lufthansa and Garuda Indonesia both in code share and small airlines like Aero Asia and Shaheen Airlines from Pakistan, thats about it.
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Old 26th Nov 2003, 21:17
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....

Homesick,

how about BA, don't you think the British would rather fly for BA then for QR where there's nothing to do?

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Old 26th Nov 2003, 22:16
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WHY ARE YOU ALL LEAVING??????

SO GUYS,

WHAT IS THE STORY WITH PAY AND CONDITIONS AT QR
HOW COME YOU GUYS ARE BEHIND EVERYBODY ELSE. ARE YOU NOT A VERY RICH COUNTRY, ARE YOU NOT A NATIONAL CARRIER,ARE YOU NOT THE FASTEST GROWING AIRLINE IN THE WORLD THAT TAKES YOU PERSONEL.......AH THAT IS WHY YOU ALL WANT TO LEAVE,I HEAR A LOT OF THE RENTS GOING UP,NO PROBLEM IM SURE THE HR DEPT. WILL PULL OUT ALL THE STOPS TO HELP YOU GUYS......AH THAT IS WHY YOU ALL WANT TO LEAVE.
I HEAR THERE IS A PACKAGE ON THE DESK, GATHERING DUST...........AH THAT IS WHY YOU ALL WANT TO LEAVE
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Dupont of course they would...except me cos i'm biased!! But I am, and I am sure you are, glad to be out of it and enjoying life elsewhere with a better company who look after their staff.

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Old 26th Nov 2003, 23:22
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Question

Newscaster, this appeared in July
Qatar and the UK yesterday signed an upgraded, bilateral Air Services Agreement (ASA) that provides for national carrier Qatar Airways and designated British airlines to operate 14 flights each between Doha and London every week. The new ASA offers Qatar Airways and British Airways and another UK carrier to operate 14 flights per week between Doha and London Heathrow or London Gatwick airports. Qatar Airways, he said, currently operates 13 weekly flights between Doha and London Heathrow. In addition, the two carriers can also operate seven cargo freighters between Doha and London every week. The UK has also designated another carrier, British Midland Airlines, to operate flights between Doha and London.
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Old 27th Nov 2003, 15:10
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Thats an interesting development regarding British Midland to Doha, I wonder if they will be interested in expanding eastwards, they should though to break the monopoly of British Airwayys in the region i.e, infact another website mentioned them also being allowed to fly to Pakistan.

But Qatar should be getting more airlines from other countries that they fly to as well.
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Old 27th Nov 2003, 18:32
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Qatar Airways generally

The bmi approval to fly to Doha is something that has been in the pipeline for quite some time. Indeed, Star Alliance is viewing Doha as it's future Middle East hub, with bmi, Lufthansa and, eventually, Qatar Airways, all operating an enhanced hub and spoke network out of Doha. Look out for reciprocal greater QR codesharing across the bmi European and US networks. This is inevitable and will happen shortly.

However, in terms of market share, QR - who are less reliant on financial backing and funding than the others, will simply undercut all other players and retainmarket share.

e.g. It is highly unlikely that TCN traffic from Dhaka, for example, will arrive in Doha and wait twelve hours for the next bmi flight to LHR. Instead, QR will retain this lucrative traffic through competitive pricing.

ETIHAD AND QR EXODUS

Yes - the very same is a fact. Indeed, there are not one but two QR Performance Supervisors leaving to joinEtihad, as well as several crew and CSD's, many long serving. One of the PS has alread resigned and thereis already at LEAST one QR CSD flying in the Etihad uniform!

Sad......


Last but not least, I hear that QR will cancel their orders for the A346HGW and replace with 773-ER.
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Old 27th Nov 2003, 23:46
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Thumbs up Cockpit Crew also moving nest door!

Yes Sir, I love QR; but, I believe your company has a lot more to offer as far as compensations, treatment and a relax working environment. The training was more than papers and reading material!! It was fun!!! and enjoyable! STC's great to get along and no long faces or intimidations! Culturally a great experience.

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QR Exodus

So, A300 Man, do you think GAS can give me a job then?!!!

Good to see you back on here!

HR & Co
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Old 28th Nov 2003, 14:24
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Where is the initial post?

Exodus at QR???? Really? Now thats a surprise, why would anybody want to leave this company.

Its getting worse here, nothing is changing . Only the world markets are opening up and thats a really good thing!

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I have heard too that QR trainers are very rude and there been instances of trainee crew quitting because of that, one thread at another forum said that they were so obnoxious that at times osme of the girls would actually start crying and yet they would be taunting them, the topic dealt with the posters female freind's experience who quit during training.
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Post Try telling that to Akbar!

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Old 29th Nov 2003, 01:14
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I know that some of the crew were initially "scared" to make the move, but I am pleased for the ones who have. They deserve better treatment and I sincerely hope that they receive it at Etihad.

Good luck to them.
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Even Bahrain and Gulf Air were never so overly ambitious in the good times when BAH was handling loads of airlines from the east and the west Qantas, Singapore Airlines, Pan Am and British Airways Concorde service and GF was reigning supreme in the region(there was no Emirates). I realised QR were over doing it when they orderd the A380 quite obviously a prestige/image related mistake, if they need big aircraft they should have stuck with their sole 747-200 and later gone for the 744 if the image thing was so important.

Qatar has yet to gain its status as a competitor to Kuwait, Bahrain, Dubai and Abu Dhabi.
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Latest news I have heard is that its now 85 cabin crew and 24 flight deck have now quit the ever so popular Akbar Airways. Also 3 aircraft grounded as no one to fly it

Things seems to be looking up for the bouncer.

Anyone got any further info. Probably wont bother the little man anyway (oops called him a man my mistake sorry)

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Old 13th Dec 2003, 18:32
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From my own experience at QR I can't say I thought the trainers were rude, only tough. If you made a mistake during training you had to proove them wrong later and that was difficult because at that time they were more attentive and could question you.
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Old 13th Dec 2003, 21:15
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Only one or two of the trainers are qualified for the position. Most have just been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time...attached to AAB's rear!
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How much weight does QR put on type rating or would a respectable total time make any difference.
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Hey Saw
I was invited to a A320 F/O interview about 2 weeks ago. They confirmed my interview date with me and then asked for my license which I sent to them. I few days later I recieved an email from them uninviting me to the interview because I did not have a type rating. Pretty unprofessional of them.
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