Are Gulf Air back to their old tricks?
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MR CNTIAM
1) You say "INFLUENTIAL"......I don't think those influential pilots will ever have to use their influence if they were treated FAIRLY.
2) You say "I am an insider and am willing to give you any information regarding this incident "......I wonder, will you give out the information about the review board that found both the named managers at fault?!! headed by Capt R.HILL or was he bought off?!!
3) Where are the QAR readouts to convict him? (which is said to have been taken off the A/C by hand by the First named Manager (which is against the law))
4) If a day ever comes (God forbid) where you see your career being put to an end.. I'm sure you'll be using all the "INFLUENCE" you could find!!............Oh! but I forgot!! You aren't "Omani"
LETS ALL STICK TOGETHER AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, SO NO ONE HAS TO USE ANY "INFLUENCE".
AT GULF AIR WE'RE ALL GULFAIRIANS, NO OTHER NATIONALITIES
CaptSnails
I SALUTE YOU. Keep up the open mind, that's the only thing that would drive us forward
1) You say "INFLUENTIAL"......I don't think those influential pilots will ever have to use their influence if they were treated FAIRLY.
2) You say "I am an insider and am willing to give you any information regarding this incident "......I wonder, will you give out the information about the review board that found both the named managers at fault?!! headed by Capt R.HILL or was he bought off?!!
3) Where are the QAR readouts to convict him? (which is said to have been taken off the A/C by hand by the First named Manager (which is against the law))
4) If a day ever comes (God forbid) where you see your career being put to an end.. I'm sure you'll be using all the "INFLUENCE" you could find!!............Oh! but I forgot!! You aren't "Omani"
LETS ALL STICK TOGETHER AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, SO NO ONE HAS TO USE ANY "INFLUENCE".
AT GULF AIR WE'RE ALL GULFAIRIANS, NO OTHER NATIONALITIES
CaptSnails
I SALUTE YOU. Keep up the open mind, that's the only thing that would drive us forward
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CaptSnails
Please stop beating round the bush, the point remains that trainers/managers lost their positions, simply because they were doing their job, and just incase you forgot this is how this topic started.
No matter what excuses you make and whatever tactics you use you will never be able to cover up this crime, which I consider you a part of, since you seem to be desperate to do anything to smother any smoke that has developed.
Weeping eyes,
1) Yes he was influential, that is how he managed to get two, very good trainers/manager out their positions. I don’t know what you understand by fair? My understanding is, if I fail, then I get retrained and when I achieve the required standards then and only then will I get checked out. Rather then use my influence and remove the guys that fail me.
2) I don’t need to give out any information’s regarding the outcome of the findings of the review board headed by R. Hill, since the facts speak for them selves. (R. Hill landed himself the job of HOFO and managed to get his mate from BMI into the position of FST manger in fact I wouldn’t be surprised when eventually he digs a hole for the VPO and place himself in that position. Need I to say more???!!!!!!!
3) On a recent discussion regarding QAR tapes the FS manager was stating that they only manage a meager 60% data recovery if not less at times, and they have a major problem with tapes getting lost. I remember they had a similar problem in the previous outfit I worked for, and I am sure a lot of other airlines have similar problem. (Maybe Ladies/Gentlemen experienced in this field can elaborate more on this point)
4) I hope I will never need to use any influence in this airline since I don’t have anybody with any authority.
LET US ALL STICK TOGETHER SUPPORT SAFTY & FAIRNESS
Xeque
Good on you keep posting.
Please stop beating round the bush, the point remains that trainers/managers lost their positions, simply because they were doing their job, and just incase you forgot this is how this topic started.
No matter what excuses you make and whatever tactics you use you will never be able to cover up this crime, which I consider you a part of, since you seem to be desperate to do anything to smother any smoke that has developed.
Weeping eyes,
1) Yes he was influential, that is how he managed to get two, very good trainers/manager out their positions. I don’t know what you understand by fair? My understanding is, if I fail, then I get retrained and when I achieve the required standards then and only then will I get checked out. Rather then use my influence and remove the guys that fail me.
2) I don’t need to give out any information’s regarding the outcome of the findings of the review board headed by R. Hill, since the facts speak for them selves. (R. Hill landed himself the job of HOFO and managed to get his mate from BMI into the position of FST manger in fact I wouldn’t be surprised when eventually he digs a hole for the VPO and place himself in that position. Need I to say more???!!!!!!!
3) On a recent discussion regarding QAR tapes the FS manager was stating that they only manage a meager 60% data recovery if not less at times, and they have a major problem with tapes getting lost. I remember they had a similar problem in the previous outfit I worked for, and I am sure a lot of other airlines have similar problem. (Maybe Ladies/Gentlemen experienced in this field can elaborate more on this point)
4) I hope I will never need to use any influence in this airline since I don’t have anybody with any authority.
LET US ALL STICK TOGETHER SUPPORT SAFTY & FAIRNESS
Xeque
Good on you keep posting.
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CNTIAM,
I'll quote myself this time because you did not get it the first time round.
"Are you aware of the fact that DGCAM was recently replaced?
EVER WONDER WHY?"
Nuff said
Regards mate
Snails
I'll quote myself this time because you did not get it the first time round.
"Are you aware of the fact that DGCAM was recently replaced?
EVER WONDER WHY?"
Nuff said
Regards mate
Snails
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Gulf Air exonorated
I was approached last night by a very senior Captain at Gulf Air whom I trust implicitly and who knows who I am.
He told me the full story of this incident and I am now very happy that Gulf Air have acted correctly and that the Omani pilot involved in this incident was the person who was in the right.
I appologise to any persons who may have been distressed by the topic and initial insinuations made.
I would go as far as to say that only the new regime at Gulf Air made it possible for justice to be done here and that under the previous regimes an injustice would have been allowed.
Thank you for all who have contributed to this topic, it did it's job and the truth has now come out.
He told me the full story of this incident and I am now very happy that Gulf Air have acted correctly and that the Omani pilot involved in this incident was the person who was in the right.
I appologise to any persons who may have been distressed by the topic and initial insinuations made.
I would go as far as to say that only the new regime at Gulf Air made it possible for justice to be done here and that under the previous regimes an injustice would have been allowed.
Thank you for all who have contributed to this topic, it did it's job and the truth has now come out.
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Sirwa69,
Thank you for you have proven to me once again that your intentions are genuine and you seek the truth whatever that may be.
For that you have my utmost respect and admiration.
Although the truth sometimes is not as impressive and glamorous as we would like it to be we have a collective obligation to make it known in fairness and justice to all.
Best Regards
Snails
Thank you for you have proven to me once again that your intentions are genuine and you seek the truth whatever that may be.
For that you have my utmost respect and admiration.
Although the truth sometimes is not as impressive and glamorous as we would like it to be we have a collective obligation to make it known in fairness and justice to all.
Best Regards
Snails
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Dear Captain Snails....
In fairness and justice to all!
On the 12 August.....You said you were unaware of this incident.
Later..... You said a THR incident did occur.
Now.......You say The Truth must come out however unpleasent.
Could you now post give your final version of events and
Post the Truth the Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth.
So help you Allah/God as applicable.
Kindest regards Scan
In fairness and justice to all!
On the 12 August.....You said you were unaware of this incident.
Later..... You said a THR incident did occur.
Now.......You say The Truth must come out however unpleasent.
Could you now post give your final version of events and
Post the Truth the Whole Truth and Nothing but the Truth.
So help you Allah/God as applicable.
Kindest regards Scan
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Most certainly I can Scan,
On the 12th August Sirwa69 wrote:
“This is only a rumour, by that I mean that I have only heard it from one source at the moment.
Apparently an Expat trainer has recently been given his jotters because he was failing too many locals.”
To which I replied that I know no such incident, and I maintain that.
Subsequently the matter of THR came up and hence this long discussion. I neither want nor think it fare to people involved to mention the whole story here on Pprune suffice it to say that the matter in my mind was handled properly and certain insinuations made here were not true. I believe the objective of this forum is not to provide a platform for slander and gossip but the exchange of information for our mutual benefit and that of our industry.
Hope that clarifies things.
Cheers
Snails
On the 12th August Sirwa69 wrote:
“This is only a rumour, by that I mean that I have only heard it from one source at the moment.
Apparently an Expat trainer has recently been given his jotters because he was failing too many locals.”
To which I replied that I know no such incident, and I maintain that.
Subsequently the matter of THR came up and hence this long discussion. I neither want nor think it fare to people involved to mention the whole story here on Pprune suffice it to say that the matter in my mind was handled properly and certain insinuations made here were not true. I believe the objective of this forum is not to provide a platform for slander and gossip but the exchange of information for our mutual benefit and that of our industry.
Hope that clarifies things.
Cheers
Snails
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Dear Captain Snails....
The only thing your post clarifies to me is.... You are not now prepared to tell the truth the whole truth and nothying but the truth on pprune over this story.
Failing this.... the posts of Cntiam 4 &10Sept and ac100 and tcas
remain on file on pprune as evidence against your assurances supported now by Sirwar69.
Kind Regards Scan
The only thing your post clarifies to me is.... You are not now prepared to tell the truth the whole truth and nothying but the truth on pprune over this story.
Failing this.... the posts of Cntiam 4 &10Sept and ac100 and tcas
remain on file on pprune as evidence against your assurances supported now by Sirwar69.
Kind Regards Scan
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Can we put this one to bed now? Far too liberal use of individuals names in this thread; to have removed them would have detracted from the story and I have not altered any threads but please avoid using names in the future.
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Everyone, just ignore snails as much as you can.
He has a reputation of hating the truth and loving negative attention. And. . . . .he hates me too, am I right? You will see his answer soon.
GP76
He has a reputation of hating the truth and loving negative attention. And. . . . .he hates me too, am I right? You will see his answer soon.
GP76
