k.o.t.s .. thanks for your post

kamaciwa ... i dont think 1000 pilots are leaving buddy

anyone else with any more info

cheers,
Max

max,
I think they will hire u and put you on the 380 right away cos everybody else is stupid and does not have your aviation skills, I am sure you will get your upgrade within 2 years on the 380.

So far the base aircraft is the 330 and all 380 pilots will have to do the 330 first. That includs 777 and newhires. My guess is there will be a full 380 course coming when the 330/340 is phased out. Does anyone know what sims are being put in the new building?

Tech guy told me 1 380 and 1 777 to start.

The new building will have 2 x A380 Full Flight Simulators leaving two spare bays for whatever type EK finally selects........ A350 or B787.

The new B777-300ER FFS will join the B777-300 FFS in the EAC

That's if the thing gets here. Further delays expected now, but in typical EK fashion, nothing said about it yet by the office.

Airbus always supply conversions with a new aircraft, so to say that everyone will have to start on the A330 is a little rich. For the normal guys ie you and me, yes the A330 will be the starting block, but for those stellar locals in management and other immensely senior chaps who know people who know people I bet they never see an A330, they will be in the A380 before you blink!!!
As an aside it will be a breath of fresh air for the B777 fleet to transfer some of our more popular pilots onto the A380, some went about a year ago to do the A330 route, but a few of the more special ones are still on the B777waiting waiting!!!!

Fatbus

I dont think your info is correct. As far as I have read in one of the newsletters, the first 8 aircraft will be crewed from the Airbus fleet. Thereafter its B777 and whoever they can find.

But first they have to certify it...

I am under no illusion that the first of the fat buses will be crewed by Airbus guys, that is of course the most sensible thing to do (surprising that EK shoud be sensible for once), however what I implied was that in due course certain guys from the B777 will miraculously arrive on it without any, or maybe very very little A330 time.
watch this space.........................

Those who are on the B777 know who the 'popular' ones are - just ask a couple of guys are they will all come up with the same names!!!!!
Some of them maybe waiting for the B747-8F or whatever it is being called in the vain hope of flying it.
You don't need to have flown the A330/340 to fly the A380 (unless of course you are at EK and of course EK is different as we all know),if you have flown new generation airbus before, it may mean you know a litttle more about the airbus systems but you still will just learn the A380 like any other aircraft. Nobody ever said you had to fly a B757/767 before you could fly a B777 or B744 so why should you fly the A330/340 before the A380???????

Muttley mate. If you have to ask maybe you are one of them.

You have to fly the 330 before the 380 because the course offered by airbus is a ccq course.....EK will use this for the first 8 (?) aircraft then offer full conversion courses for everyone else (ie boeing). Just a matter of economics.

As Max just said ,the 330 is the base A/C, until EK gets a full course for the 380 everyone that goes that direction ,even 777 pilots ,will have to do the 330 course followed by the CCQ to the 380. That could even be after the first 8, all that was said is the first 8 will be from the AB fleet.This is the same thing that is applied to the 340, has anyone done a full 340 course? No,ccq from the 330.

A recurring rumour seems to be the resurrection of the A346 that EK had firm orders (subsequently deferred indefinitely) for, plus further options.
These to take the place of the delayed A380.
Seems to me to make sense but can anyone confirm/deny or even shed any light on the subject?

And you know what? They will most likely need A330 DECs because of it! Why? Surely you can't have a regular flow of normal upgrades on the Airbus AND loose 22+15+? more Airbus FOs to Transition Upgrade on the 777 AND do CCQ training for 330 FOs AND hire new 330 FOs at the same time! Y'all have to understand, it's simple economics!
Bent over but still pinching my buttcheeks

If they do indeed put DECs in the Airbus it is high time we all leave. First we should march right into TCAS or MR EDs office and demand an explaination for this act. There is no reason to put DECs in the Airbus when a lot of FOs are looking at 4 years to command.
Then when no explaination is given we march off to Europe and get real jobs.

I've heard the rumour on the 346 as well.. As a matter of fact there's one parked in front Ibn Battuta Mall already!!

EADS still maintains the project is on the 'revised' timeline. So EK should get three aircraft in 2007, October, November and December.

If this schedule slips and EK takes 346s, it all gets very interesting. I doubt even a tame regulator will allow 330/343/345/346 MFF.

So how will they split the fleets? All 340 types as one and 330 as another would make sense. But I pity the poor guys on this fleet.

330/343 as one and 345/6 as another would work too. No 345/6 simulator in Dubai though.

Either way the decision will not be based on logic, but the self interest of the managers involved in formulating it - naturally.

Why not? Was flying A319/320/321 and A330 MFF as well. What's the difference between A345 and A346? I guess it's just the length.

What about 777-200 ,777-200er ,777-200lr ,777-300 and 777-300er is it not the same as A330, 343 ,345 and 346 no its one more for the 777....