WizzAir Abu Dhabi.
WizzAir Abu Dhabi.
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 9
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From: Earth
Of course I don’t expect a LCC to pay the same as a full service carrier, but this is ridiculous. They are taking advantage of pilots out of work and they are taking advantage of their own Eastern European crew who think this is reasonable pay. As soon as the market picks up (which it is), people will leave and they will be f***ed.
I’m not one to discourage people from any company, even Wizz. So again if you need to get back to work, go for it, but treat them as disposable as they treat you.
Joined: Jun 2001
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 1,153
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From: Brit living in Malaysia
I never worked at the Abu Dhabi base so I’m just giving an estimate. A captain could make around AED 40,000 per month if you do around 40 sectors in a month. In contrast, an FO next door would make that doing zero hours in a month.
Of course I don’t expect a LCC to pay the same as a full service carrier, but this is ridiculous. They are taking advantage of pilots out of work and they are taking advantage of their own Eastern European crew who think this is reasonable pay. As soon as the market picks up (which it is), people will leave and they will be f***ed.
I’m not one to discourage people from any company, even Wizz. So again if you need to get back to work, go for it, but treat them as disposable as they treat you.
Of course I don’t expect a LCC to pay the same as a full service carrier, but this is ridiculous. They are taking advantage of pilots out of work and they are taking advantage of their own Eastern European crew who think this is reasonable pay. As soon as the market picks up (which it is), people will leave and they will be f***ed.
I’m not one to discourage people from any company, even Wizz. So again if you need to get back to work, go for it, but treat them as disposable as they treat you.
Only half a speed-brake
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 4,459
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From: Commuting not home
Also for the EE pilots it just works if they keep the families home. Daddy has an offshore job...
Something I heard of third hand - if you fancy living in Dubai: go for 20/10 with flynas and move your family to UAE. Pay is around 60k.
Last edited by FlightDetent; 2nd April 2022 at 12:16.
Joined: Aug 1999
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
Posts: 473
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From: Al tube.
FO 87,480AED/year, distance pay 0.13AED/Km, landing pay 65AED per landing.
SFO 102,060AED/year, distance pay 0.186AED/Km, landing pay 105AED per landing.
Above figures are all post line check. Pre line check basically half basic salary only (48,600/53,460AED) as no distance or landing pay. There is also a small accommodation allowance.
SFO 102,060AED/year, distance pay 0.186AED/Km, landing pay 105AED per landing.
Above figures are all post line check. Pre line check basically half basic salary only (48,600/53,460AED) as no distance or landing pay. There is also a small accommodation allowance.
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 305
Likes: 9
From: stuttgart
FO 87,480AED/year, distance pay 0.13AED/Km, landing pay 65AED per landing.
SFO 102,060AED/year, distance pay 0.186AED/Km, landing pay 105AED per landing.
Above figures are all post line check. Pre line check basically half basic salary only (48,600/53,460AED) as no distance or landing pay. There is also a small accommodation allowance.
SFO 102,060AED/year, distance pay 0.186AED/Km, landing pay 105AED per landing.
Above figures are all post line check. Pre line check basically half basic salary only (48,600/53,460AED) as no distance or landing pay. There is also a small accommodation allowance.
that pay is not enough to die but far away to live
Joined: Sep 2019
Posts: 987
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From: Mexico City
3500 on groceries but only 2000 on rent and bills? You need to check your numbers.
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 305
Likes: 9
From: stuttgart
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 23
Likes: 0
From: Brac
FO 87,480AED/year, distance pay 0.13AED/Km, landing pay 65AED per landing.
SFO 102,060AED/year, distance pay 0.186AED/Km, landing pay 105AED per landing.
Above figures are all post line check. Pre line check basically half basic salary only (48,600/53,460AED) as no distance or landing pay. There is also a small accommodation allowance.
SFO 102,060AED/year, distance pay 0.186AED/Km, landing pay 105AED per landing.
Above figures are all post line check. Pre line check basically half basic salary only (48,600/53,460AED) as no distance or landing pay. There is also a small accommodation allowance.
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 131
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From: Glorious nation of Kazakhstan.....great success!!!
No one seems to cover actual living costs, so, here goes:
- 2 Bed apartment on Reem Island - Approx. AED 8,800-00 per month
- Utilities (A/C, water and electricity) - Approx. AED 1,000-00 per month (in the summer)
- Internet - AED400-00 per month
- Mobile phone - AED200-00 per month
- Groceries - AED4,500 approx. per month (4 person family)
- Booze - AED500 per month
- Eating out - AED1,200-00 per month (4 persons each time)
- Schools - AED7,500-00 per month (for 2 kids over grade 6. This can vary wildly. Based on the Canadian International School, and you will have a woke'ster in your family...)
- Cars - You can lease one for approx. AED1,600 per month (inclusive of insurance and maintenance). Bigger car = Bigger money honey
- Fuel - currently AED3-67 per liter
A couple of things to bare in mind:
1) Rent usually has to be paid in 1, 2 or 4 cheques (correct, they still use cheques here!!!!!)
2) Schools fees are paid per term
3) I haven't included sundry expenses
4) I have not included medical insurance, as the company covers it.
- 2 Bed apartment on Reem Island - Approx. AED 8,800-00 per month
- Utilities (A/C, water and electricity) - Approx. AED 1,000-00 per month (in the summer)
- Internet - AED400-00 per month
- Mobile phone - AED200-00 per month
- Groceries - AED4,500 approx. per month (4 person family)
- Booze - AED500 per month
- Eating out - AED1,200-00 per month (4 persons each time)
- Schools - AED7,500-00 per month (for 2 kids over grade 6. This can vary wildly. Based on the Canadian International School, and you will have a woke'ster in your family...)
- Cars - You can lease one for approx. AED1,600 per month (inclusive of insurance and maintenance). Bigger car = Bigger money honey
- Fuel - currently AED3-67 per liter
A couple of things to bare in mind:
1) Rent usually has to be paid in 1, 2 or 4 cheques (correct, they still use cheques here!!!!!)
2) Schools fees are paid per term
3) I haven't included sundry expenses
4) I have not included medical insurance, as the company covers it.
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 305
Likes: 9
From: stuttgart
No one seems to cover actual living costs, so, here goes:
- 2 Bed apartment on Reem Island - Approx. AED 8,800-00 per month
- Utilities (A/C, water and electricity) - Approx. AED 1,000-00 per month (in the summer)
- Internet - AED400-00 per month
- Mobile phone - AED200-00 per month
- Groceries - AED4,500 approx. per month (4 person family)
- Booze - AED500 per month
- Eating out - AED1,200-00 per month (4 persons each time)
- Schools - AED7,500-00 per month (for 2 kids over grade 6. This can vary wildly. Based on the Canadian International School, and you will have a woke'ster in your family...)
- Cars - You can lease one for approx. AED1,600 per month (inclusive of insurance and maintenance). Bigger car = Bigger money honey
- Fuel - currently AED3-67 per liter
A couple of things to bare in mind:
1) Rent usually has to be paid in 1, 2 or 4 cheques (correct, they still use cheques here!!!!!)
2) Schools fees are paid per term
3) I haven't included sundry expenses
4) I have not included medical insurance, as the company covers it.
- 2 Bed apartment on Reem Island - Approx. AED 8,800-00 per month
- Utilities (A/C, water and electricity) - Approx. AED 1,000-00 per month (in the summer)
- Internet - AED400-00 per month
- Mobile phone - AED200-00 per month
- Groceries - AED4,500 approx. per month (4 person family)
- Booze - AED500 per month
- Eating out - AED1,200-00 per month (4 persons each time)
- Schools - AED7,500-00 per month (for 2 kids over grade 6. This can vary wildly. Based on the Canadian International School, and you will have a woke'ster in your family...)
- Cars - You can lease one for approx. AED1,600 per month (inclusive of insurance and maintenance). Bigger car = Bigger money honey
- Fuel - currently AED3-67 per liter
A couple of things to bare in mind:
1) Rent usually has to be paid in 1, 2 or 4 cheques (correct, they still use cheques here!!!!!)
2) Schools fees are paid per term
3) I haven't included sundry expenses
4) I have not included medical insurance, as the company covers it.
the sad thing is your are depending on miles flown and landings to see how much you will have at the end. And this is highly unpredictable.
Would interesting to see a actual roaster in regards to the flexibel numbers.
another thing to bare in mind
rents are only 1 year - which means, as the rent is not indexed like in Dubai, landlord can increase the rent as seems appropriate to them. In other words you cannot be sure that a rent of 8,8kAed this year will hold up next year. Once market recovers prices can and will go up, which means that in the worst case you swap apartments yearly if you can’t afford to go with the price hike.
With swapping apartments there comes also security deposit (which will be returned) and broker fee each time.
Last edited by flyTheBigFatLady; 21st April 2022 at 08:09.