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Old 27th Jun 2022, 05:25
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Any wizz Mavericks present here?
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Old 27th Jun 2022, 09:19
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I would like to give a more accurate representation of the Wizz Air Abu Dhabi Senior First Officer salary package. This isn’t in anyway a justification of how well paid or poorly paid the package is, but a representation of a realistic average earning per month. I hope it provides a more transparent earning potential and can help with your decision making.

The basic salary is 10,000 AED per month.
Every KM flown will be paid 0.201 AED.
Every landing will be paid 113.7 AED.
Accomodation Allowance is 65,000 AED per year, or 5416.7 AED per month.

The average sector distance is around 3,000 KM and there are usually 2 sectors per day.

A modest monthly salary can be calculated by assuming 10 days of work, flying 2 sectors per day of an average 6,000 KM.

Basic Salary - 10,000 AED
10 x 6000 KM at 0.201 AED per KM - 12,060 AED
10 x (2 landing per day) at 113.7 AED per landing - 2274 AED
Accommodation allowance - 5416.7 AED
Total monthly income - 29,750.7 AED net of taxes.

An accommodation allowance of 65,000 AED can allow you to budget for a 2 bedroom apartment on Yas Island which is 15 minutes from AUH.

There are a few posts mentioning how expensive the UAE is. I think it’s fair to say that the general costs are more or less equivalent to western countries however, many things are also cheaper. For example, buying a car and running costs. I believe what’s important is to assess the gross income you would require in your place of residence in order to clear a net equivalent of 29,750.7 AED. For example, a net salary of 29,750.7 AED is equivalent to £6583 at today's conversion rate. That would require a gross years salary of £132,464.

Hope the above helps with your decision making.






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Old 27th Jun 2022, 10:44
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For Captains:
Basic Pay: 16666 AED / Month
Accommodation: 80 000 AED per year or 6666 AED / Month
Distance pay: 0.293 AED per KM
Landing pay: 146.5 AED per Landing
Schooling allowance was recently introduced only for Captains: Up to 3 children, on a reducing basis over 4 years. It can cover roughly 50-60% depending on the schools you pick.

The overall income mostly depend on the amount of flying you do. It can be as low 30K KM /Month to as high as 60K KM / Month, so I would calculate the average based on 45K KM and about 16 landings a month.
Callout to work on Days off increased to: 1180 AED for Captains and 790 AED for SFOs but rarely happen.







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Old 27th Jun 2022, 11:33
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Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach
I would like to give a more accurate representation of the Wizz Air Abu Dhabi Senior First Officer salary package. This isn’t in anyway a justification of how well paid or poorly paid the package is, but a representation of a realistic average earning per month. I hope it provides a more transparent earning potential and can help with your decision making.

The basic salary is 10,000 AED per month.
Every KM flown will be paid 0.201 AED.
Every landing will be paid 113.7 AED.
Accomodation Allowance is 65,000 AED per year, or 5416.7 AED per month.

The average sector distance is around 3,000 KM and there are usually 2 sectors per day.

A modest monthly salary can be calculated by assuming 10 days of work, flying 2 sectors per day of an average 6,000 KM.

Basic Salary - 10,000 AED
10 x 6000 KM at 0.201 AED per KM - 12,060 AED
10 x (2 landing per day) at 113.7 AED per landing - 2274 AED
Accommodation allowance - 5416.7 AED
Total monthly income - 29,750.7 AED net of taxes.

An accommodation allowance of 65,000 AED can allow you to budget for a 2 bedroom apartment on Yas Island which is 15 minutes from AUH.

There are a few posts mentioning how expensive the UAE is. I think it’s fair to say that the general costs are more or less equivalent to western countries however, many things are also cheaper. For example, buying a car and running costs. I believe what’s important is to assess the gross income you would require in your place of residence in order to clear a net equivalent of 29,750.7 AED. For example, a net salary of 29,750.7 AED is equivalent to £6583 at today's conversion rate. That would require a gross years salary of £132,464.

Hope the above helps with your decision making.
Almost 15k AED less than Flydubai. A friend of mine is a personal trainer in UAE and makes 20-25k AED a month

You would have to be very desperate to go to Wizz AD. Especially as an FO with a family. AD has great family life but you need more to make it worth it.
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Old 27th Jun 2022, 19:24
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123
Almost 15k AED less than Flydubai. A friend of mine is a personal trainer in UAE and makes 20-25k AED a month

You would have to be very desperate to go to Wizz AD. Especially as an FO with a family. AD has great family life but you need more to make it worth it.
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i like to add to careful about 65k for rent is set very low. Because rent is only yearly and can go up big after the first year. If the price in yas is that low, it only shows the desperation to get renters now. That price won’t stay for long. Secondly their is a utility bill for Colling and water which easily goes towards 2k a month which is not included in the mentioned calculation. Grocery Shopping will reach at least 4K for a family of 3-4 persons.
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Are you suggesting it's time to start calling this immigrant work, instead of expat lifestyle?

After all, it's cannon fodder brought in because the locals just could not be arsed to do this for substandard wages.
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Hi is anyone been invited for the NTR Capt assessment in Gurgaon for the 10th, 11th July? Please DM me, also what to expect for the selection and do we have to arrange our own tickets and hotel accommodation?
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Originally Posted by airbus-flyer
For Captains:
Basic Pay: 16666 AED / Month
Accommodation: 80 000 AED per year or 6666 AED / Month
Distance pay: 0.293 AED per KM
Landing pay: 146.5 AED per Landing
Schooling allowance was recently introduced only for Captains: Up to 3 children, on a reducing basis over 4 years. It can cover roughly 50-60% depending on the schools you pick.

The overall income mostly depend on the amount of flying you do. It can be as low 30K KM /Month to as high as 60K KM / Month, so I would calculate the average based on 45K KM and about 16 landings a month.
Callout to work on Days off increased to: 1180 AED for Captains and 790 AED for SFOs but rarely happen.
Let me see if I get this right..
A captain makes
Basic 16700
Flight pay (45000 x 0.293): 13185
Landing pay (16 x 146.5): 2344

Salary about AED 32k per month
housing 6700 per month
Total per month about 38700

flydubai salary plus housing is about 57000

Conclusion, a Wizzair captain makes roughly 50% less than a flydubai captain
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Old 18th Aug 2022, 06:13
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Originally Posted by kcar
Let me see if I get this right..
A captain makes
Basic 16700
Flight pay (45000 x 0.293): 13185
Landing pay (16 x 146.5): 2344

Salary about AED 32k per month
housing 6700 per month
Total per month about 38700

flydubai salary plus housing is about 57000

Conclusion, a Wizzair captain makes roughly 50% less than a flydubai captain
Do You get the housing allowance if you already own a property there or you must show proof of rent/lease to receive the allowance?
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Originally Posted by NewMan123
Of course I don’t expect a LCC to pay the same as a full service carrier, but this is ridiculous.
there you go, ignorance and self-sabotage in the same sentence...
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 18:25
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Hi all

I have been in non rated holding pool for over a month. Do they really need non rated pilots ?
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 00:15
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Is that ex EK cnut DT still at Wizz Air?
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Holding pool

Same here, been swimming in the non rated pool since last July

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Old 20th Aug 2022, 20:55
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Thanks TBSC, good to see he is no where near an airline.
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Old 20th Aug 2022, 23:39
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Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc
Thanks TBSC, good to see he is no where near an airline.
Totally agree.
Rookie mistake and not enough fear in the company to get away with it. Every muppet can "manage" employees when there is fear. They genuinely believe they are great managers. Better erase it from the resume. Most management pilots don't do well after EK.

It works differently outside the bubble.

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Old 5th Sep 2022, 12:24
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Offer from WizzAir Abu Dhabi

Hi everyone,

I was passing the assessment at the end of August. And I do not have any response for far.

Are here anyone with WizzAir Abu Dhabi negative or positive response? How long did it take to get it?

thanks a lot for your response.
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I understand you gave the assessment and awaiting results. Expect response in 7-14 days.
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Originally Posted by mishaA320
Hi everyone,

I was passing the assessment at the end of August. And I do not have any response for far.

Are here anyone with WizzAir Abu Dhabi negative or positive response? How long did it take to get it?

thanks a lot for your response.

my friend waited 3 months and then asked and they said nope . There is much better options than wizz .. in facts I can not see how you can afford to live in the uae on such a piss poor salary

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Old 20th Sep 2022, 17:02
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Originally Posted by Bloated Stomach
Wizz isn’t the best paid, no arguments there. However, it is the best option for the fastest A320 family command in the industry.

Wizz do not recruit First Officers but Captains for the future. The assessment process takes this into account. If you’re looking for higher salaries, go to Emirates or Qatar. But you’ll be waiting 8-10 years or so for a command.

Any intelligent person would see Wizz as one of the best investments in aviation and the fastest command. Once you have your command and 500 hours, you go where the money is and you’ll be much better off than staying in Emirates, Qatar or any other legacy operator in the Europe or the Middle East.
uh... "we recruit future captains" is what ANY airline will say to new joining FOs. Okay, sure, nobody is looking for FOs who have obviously no chance of passing an assessment for command. It doesn't mean you are guaranteed to actually BE a captain, whether in 3 years, or five years, or ever. You will be given a chance to become a First Officer if you pass the interview - that's all for now. Everything else is years into the future, and therefore TOTALLY unpredictable, especially in the Middle East, in a Low Cost Startup.

Any intelligent person... okay, having no intelligence then but 12 years of living in AUH and 30+ years in aviation - ask anybody who invested into real estate in the UAE, or even just bought themselves a car prior to 2019 about their "great opportunities". That said, it's not your money in WizzAir, so what do you care. You are looking for some hours and a fast command. Okay. Might happen. What, do you think, will happen after you got your command and 500 hours in the left seat? You are talking five years from now, minimum. Do you think that ANYBODY recruits captains with 500 hrs? Maybe another company like the one you are already in now, but go check out the minimum entry requirements for direct entries elsewhere: to have a realistic chance in any respectable major carrier, come back with 3000.

"Emirates, Qatar or any other legacy operator in the Europe or the Middle East..." oh, please! I'm not even gonna comment on Europe, but do you honestly believe that the ME-carriers are waiting for someone, coming out of WizzAirAD, to "come where the money is" and jump onto the left seat of a 380 or even "just" a triple seven? Really?

Honestly, people who write such BS have either not the dimmest clue of what they are writing about, or they are paid headhunters.
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