Emirates vs 5G US
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EK suspends 9 US destinations (5G)
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-emi...5g-deployment/
EK is having a few issues lately with the IAD event, and a 777 take-off abort, after no take-off clearance was given, to avoid another 777 crossing the runway. An over abundance of caution to prevent further events, perhaps?
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
EK is having a few issues lately with the IAD event, and a 777 take-off abort, after no take-off clearance was given, to avoid another 777 crossing the runway. An over abundance of caution to prevent further events, perhaps?
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-emi...5g-deployment/
EK is having a few issues lately with the IAD event, and a 777 take-off abort, after no take-off clearance was given, to avoid another 777 crossing the runway. An over abundance of caution to prevent further events, perhaps?
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
EK is having a few issues lately with the IAD event, and a 777 take-off abort, after no take-off clearance was given, to avoid another 777 crossing the runway. An over abundance of caution to prevent further events, perhaps?
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
Anybody able to confirm this?
Nothing to do with EK's 'issues' - such a cheapshot. Other airlines, such as JAL, American, Air India and British Airways have also cancelled 777 flights into USA for the same reason.
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Emirates vs 5G US
Either concerns over 5G is true or flights today america weren’t yielding enough profit https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ns-2022-01-18/
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-emi...5g-deployment/
EK is having a few issues lately with the IAD event, and a 777 take-off abort, after no take-off clearance was given, to avoid another 777 crossing the runway. An over abundance of caution to prevent further events, perhaps?
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
EK is having a few issues lately with the IAD event, and a 777 take-off abort, after no take-off clearance was given, to avoid another 777 crossing the runway. An over abundance of caution to prevent further events, perhaps?
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
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https://www.airlive.net/breaking-emi...5g-deployment/
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
EK is displaying the typical EK playbook by suspending flights where the 5G issue is not really a factor, unless the weather is below CAT I mins, and keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
KLM only flies to IAD and ATL with its 777’s effective immediately. All other airfields in the usa are off limits to our 777’s. Autolands prohibited.
Affected systems mentioned are:
autopilot, autothrottle, tcas, engine control, flight controls, egpws, tailstrike protection.
Source: internal memo
Affected systems mentioned are:
autopilot, autothrottle, tcas, engine control, flight controls, egpws, tailstrike protection.
Source: internal memo
Knowing a thing or two about transatlantic markets, no doubt all these airlines jumped at the opportunity to cancel selected flights without having to admit commercial reasons, 5G was a godsend excuse. Having lived through the Y2K panic and the claims of 'deadly' interference by 1G/2G mobile phones in the nineties, I'll just lean back and reach for the popcorn.
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KLM only flies to IAD and ATL with its 777’s effective immediately. All other airfields in the usa are off limits to our 777’s. Autolands prohibited.
Affected systems mentioned are:
autopilot, autothrottle, tcas, engine control, flight controls, egpws, tailstrike protection.
Source: internal memo
Affected systems mentioned are:
autopilot, autothrottle, tcas, engine control, flight controls, egpws, tailstrike protection.
Source: internal memo
Apparently 5G roll-out delayed 2 weeks. It's a gong show tbh as there has been almost no real research into the potential effects on RADALT systems. Telecom companies have spent billions worldwide buying frequency blocks adjacent to the 4.2-4.4 MHz band RADALTs work in. The RTCA paper (Oct 20) makes for an informative read, biggest so-what is that the interference filtering/blocking varies significantly between system and a/c type, requiring long and laborious testing...something the system and a/c manufacturers are loathed to do as they'd be on the hook for costs. Here in the frozen north TCCA have established both Exclusion and Restricted zones around airports/heliports that have CAT I/II/III approaches. The AD pushed out by the FAA includes RNP approaches too, and could see the 'Not Allowed' being applied to approaches at 80 CONUS airports in the event the weather drops below 1/2 SM vis etc. Blancolirio has just put a reasonable YooToob vid out, give it a watch.
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keeping the JFK flight ($$$) where an RNP AR approach is common (and affected by 5G)
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EK could easily make the flights “Wx dependent”. Unless CAT II/III is a possibility, there is no reason to cancel every flight. As far as I am aware, none of the US airports listed use SA CAT I approaches, so unless low vis ops are active, there is no concern.
As another mentioned, the 380 might have different RA’s and 5G is not an issue, which would then make the JFK RNP AR approach list. The 320 family(CEO and NEO) are affected.
Considering BA just flew a flight to the US with a single passenger onboard, andrasz is probably spot on.
5G is all over the world. Here is a map.
https://www.nperf.com/en/map/5g
I am quite happy to take cheap shots at EK, and considering the aborted takeoff a little over a week ago was a near 2nd “Tenerife” with a pair of 777-300s, they are well earned.
EK could easily make the flights “Wx dependent”. Unless CAT II/III is a possibility, there is no reason to cancel every flight. As far as I am aware, none of the US airports listed use SA CAT I approaches, so unless low vis ops are active, there is no concern.
As another mentioned, the 380 might have different RA’s and 5G is not an issue, which would then make the JFK RNP AR approach list. The 320 family(CEO and NEO) are affected.
Considering BA just flew a flight to the US with a single passenger onboard, andrasz is probably spot on.
5G is all over the world. Here is a map.
https://www.nperf.com/en/map/5g
EK could easily make the flights “Wx dependent”. Unless CAT II/III is a possibility, there is no reason to cancel every flight. As far as I am aware, none of the US airports listed use SA CAT I approaches, so unless low vis ops are active, there is no concern.
As another mentioned, the 380 might have different RA’s and 5G is not an issue, which would then make the JFK RNP AR approach list. The 320 family(CEO and NEO) are affected.
Considering BA just flew a flight to the US with a single passenger onboard, andrasz is probably spot on.
5G is all over the world. Here is a map.
https://www.nperf.com/en/map/5g
So looks like this 5G thing may be more of a problem on the Boeing.
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Given 5G has been implemented in many places all over the world without problems, why are they using these frequencies in the US?
Is it a different kind of 5G?
And how did it get this far without the issue of interference being addressed?
What a shambles
Is it a different kind of 5G?
And how did it get this far without the issue of interference being addressed?
What a shambles
5G is all over the world. Here is a map.https://www.nperf.com/en/map/5g
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So looks like this 5G thing may be more of a problem on the Boeing.
I am quite happy to take cheap shots at EK, and considering the aborted takeoff a little over a week ago was a near 2nd “Tenerife” with a pair of 777-300s, they are well earned.