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Lets go to EK! maybe...

Old 13th Nov 2021, 19:43
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Rug

i don’t know how much better it was in 2001 but I joined in 2011 end it was a good job at the time - in 2013/14 when they decided to start bullshit the 330/340 guys over transition to 380 that when it was the start of the severe downgrade in TnCs. since that time literally every benefit got touched to disfavor the employees - its where it started that accommodation was driven into company homes, medical benefit got more and more complicated and dis functional, no more step increases, rarely a profit share, not being able to request off days to your leave, not getting more than two blocks off leave, ending not even getting the full leave balance at all.
Finally introducing a bidding system which didn’t give one bid awarded, with a roaster making it impossible to swap due to swap rules a la
not 2 times same destination per month
not more than one home country/city
language limitation
And all the time restrictions which never had an impact on roastering but on swapping
99% of swapping rules could have been replaced by a “we don’t like u rule”. bottom line is the bidding / swapping app is not more than a shiny argument on the job ad but wasn’t working since it’s introduction.

Topping in being redundant for having a sick day somewhere along your career.
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Old 13th Nov 2021, 19:56
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Join Date: Jul 2000
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fatbus

Now they were the good days! Nothing like listening to the mailboxes rattle as you walked through the top floor....
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Old 13th Nov 2021, 20:02
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TransitCheck

How about the UL guys who got absolutely all while on MANDATORY UL just coming back to the line while the last few made redundant got a 3 month pay out and accessed their Provident fund! Who was worse off?

And as a side note, I for one would have been happy to take the regular 'stick up the nose' and Covid BS if I could still have been earning a wage.................................. and yes, I appreciate, although ops may not, the my 777 colleagues have had to deal with over the last 18 months. Doesn't mean I'll buy you a Costa coffee though
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Old 13th Nov 2021, 20:08
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TransitCheck

Where would I start?
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 01:52
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Join Date: Jul 2020
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Well add the 777 guys to the list , who also got fired after several months of flying through all the initial part of the COVID pandemic due to having an operation or serious illness at some stage in their career in EK.
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 07:36
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Scamdemic?
If you deny science you should not be sitting in a cockpit mate.
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 07:48
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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fatbus

The cost neutral pay cut happened around then. It was when rosters and lifestyle changed when we were no longer paid for Sim duties, leave or reserve /AD.
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Old 14th Nov 2021, 19:10
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Thumbs up

What Wizz said...x 100
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 03:19
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donpizmeov

i thought that was @2003 but you are probably right as I forgot about that change . About the same time 2 ground school day for recurrent went to1?
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 03:56
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Join Date: Aug 1998
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Sitting at the bar with Don and Fat bemoaning injustices they suffered 18 (eighteen!) years ago. How long would it take before you remembered you needed to go home and give your dog a bath?

Holocaust survivors you ain't.
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 15:38
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And this ladies and gentlemen is why it's important to get a hobby before you retire. Poor old fella has to keep on coming back looking for some attention.
But it's very good you can still remember back that far. Good for you.
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 15:41
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You know what, I think you are right.
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Old 15th Nov 2021, 21:14
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White Knight

LOL about the sound! ...And the smoking room was packed with crew 24-7
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 20:17
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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I left 6 years ago after spending 18 years in the pit, a friend just asked me the other day if I would go back and I said not even for 100k USD per month, life without EK is so much better. The USA is booming and the salaries are so much better than EK.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 20:18
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Airgus

That was the CBC methinks. Smoking at the TBF was by the suitcases at the security checkpoint. But yes, it was all a very long time ago and a good memory you have
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 20:21
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Transit Check... Where did you go?

Fired600
I too had long-term sickness at some stage in my EK career so forgive me if I think the 'sacking' algorithm' had other inputs!
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 20:23
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And how many at EK have that elusive friend called 'The Green Card'? Keep booming Goretex
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 20:49
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more than you think have a Green Card, look at UPS now, its full of ex EK guys, US citizens and other nationalities. Besides the Green Card there is also a work permit thats what I have. I'm sorry if my post doesn't fit your narrative and offended you Whitey.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 21:21
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I'm not offended at all Gorey. My first flying job was in the US. I had a J41... But let's be honest, fewer than you think have that elusive Green Card. UPS is full of ex-EK US Citizens!
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 08:41
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Join Date: Feb 2021
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White Knight

You seem to have fallen into an extremely small minority of guys who have derived some personal satisfaction from the despairs of some of your former colleagues. Well done anyway, must have been your great instagram account?
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