Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬

[gpsprimary01]

Hi there, what was the email about? can you talk about it ?

[Silver68]

Care to share?

[lfbb]

All May and June leaves were canceled, at least on 777.

[777kicker]

And hundreds of 777 pilots at home that could be called today and be back operational by June, some amazing rationale must be behind all that

[gpsprimary01]

I think they can't bring back so many crew because of covid restriction. they lock down the country again.

[777kicker]

Construction and Oil&Gas people are entering without restrictions, direct personal knowledge. So, the biggest baddest immigration department in the country cannot find a way? Really?

[gpsprimary01]

you are right 777Kicker, if they really want they can find a solution. And i expect the things will not improve as we all know during ramadan everything is slowing down in Doha (which is totally normal). Let's hope some good news in the coming weeks.

[WrldWide]

Will be interesting to see how well the recruitment goes if it is a reduced package. The current contract will not be honored until there is difficulty filling the flight decks.

[gpsprimary01]

I think it's a question of time. So many serious studies predict a shortage of pilot by 2025.
Airlines may loose 15 to 20 % of gross revenue due to shortage of crew.

[fatbus]

2025 means they will address in 2025 ( ME read late 2025) .

[KingAir1978]

gpsprimary01

Could you provide some sources for this profound wisdom?

[Python27]

63% per cent of the people create figures to prove their point, regardless of it making any sense. In this case, according to my numbers, 92% of probability of not making sense at all...

[gpsprimary01]

Here we go

https://www.oliverwyman.com/our-expe...-shortage.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/03/02/p...mic/index.html
https://www.aerotime.aero/27614-mass...t-cancelations
https://amp-cnn-com.cdn.ampproject.o...mic/index.html

[immapostthis]

gpsprimary01 No need to sound like a bummer.... but stories and stats like this have been posted for years! When in reality, if the world needs pilots, trust me there are bodies willing to fly, but it is just the problem of; airlines need experienced guys and guys need experience.... negative feedback loop. Remember the days when you just came out of flight school. Like most of us here, we were hoping and praying to get some experience somewhere... luckily someone like you did... i strayed a bit.. but PERSONALLY I don't believe the demand will be soooo great. If they need pilots, they take who they fired and if people don't come back, just like before they will mass train....

In other news, can anyone provide rumors/updates they are hearing?

• Cabin crew that were trapped outside were asked to return and they have started back flying...
• With the new financial year are pilot expected to get hired?

• What is up with the fleets;
  • 380 any news?
  • 350 any new hires? on the 350 I know some 320 captains are moving across...
  • 320 any news?
  • anyone heard about a bunch of 777 guys leaving because they count get leave to go home? ( South American pilots specifically )
  • anyone heard about a bunch of 350 guys leaving because they can get better pay outside of QA?
• Would the UK ban go away?
• anyone aware of people who returned to QA Flight deck recently ( recently = march- present)

Spill some beans guyssss!!

[CDRW]

As the saying goes " the chickens have come home to roost" - bad things the company did in the past ( such the almost gleeful " redundancy " of wattsapp users, crew they didn't want ) will come back to haunt them. The blanket cancellation of leave for the 777 fleet is a desperate move to cover the managements ineptitude.

QR will get new applicants- for sure - but this year long debacle of pilot" redundancies" closely followed by pilot hiring will sit on the mind of many people as to just how much value a crew member is to this outfit.

[Silver68]

Recall emails have been sent, with tentative dates set for end of April/ beginning of May. A few have been given dates of return already. This is for 787 and 777; unsure of any other fleets. Contracts appear to be similar to the previous one, apart from the 25% deduction. That's all I know.

[007busdriver]

I have some friends who have been called back recently to join on April and May. They're flying on 777/787 fleets. But no information about other fleets. Hope they would all follow..

[mmorel]

Are they offering first year salary and do they keep the same employee number or a new number will be generated again with lower seniority?

[Silver68]

As I understand it, new contract, new staff number and bottom of the seniority.

[jacekgfly]

LOL What seniority? LOL