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Qatar salary reductions and redundancies 😬

Old 3rd Dec 2020, 17:09
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Another bunch of 330 drivers got taken off the roster today.
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Old 4th Dec 2020, 01:30
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How is the Nigerian lady captain ? Still doing video on insta. ?
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Old 4th Dec 2020, 03:01
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Not surprising at all” Since Jan A330 were being leased return, More layoffs means more families are going to suffer” Heartbreaking” clearly there wasn’t a plan since day one!
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Old 4th Dec 2020, 03:03
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Good Question, Hmm? Track record of QR isn’t good, Use it & Throw it Policy” example is A350xwb Captain In QR who was a social media influencer portraying QR as a brand was laid off as well.
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Old 4th Dec 2020, 17:47
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This particular captain (as most show-offs on social media) was a lousy pilot with a track of some letters due to unstable approach and other misconducts... I don't think he is a good example of Use it & Throw it Policy... he had it coming.
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Old 4th Dec 2020, 18:50
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How about at his next job he concentrates on flying the aircraft instead of how many “likes” he gets on his pictures! Be nice to the FO’s as well!
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Old 4th Dec 2020, 22:37
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...o-end-conflict
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Old 5th Dec 2020, 03:24
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that's a surprise to hear..

thought he's got a gd record to be "upgraded" from 320 to 350
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Old 5th Dec 2020, 09:58
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QR axing CP Anus during these redundancies (after the promo video release) was a beautiful piece of one-upmanship for them. He was not a bad pilot although of course there was very much the potential to be a dangerous one.
Fact is he was wanted out so much even by senior management, long before the pandemic. Endless confidential reports filed against him and crew-control working hard because FOs were constantly calling in sick instead of flying with him.
He wangled his way back in once literally by way of Royal affiliation, much to the chagrin of the city shirts upstairs.
But in the end Rona won, Anus gone!

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Old 5th Dec 2020, 12:00
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Letters eventually expire and you get the upgrade... aside from the whole selling goods using the company brand on his website, there was an unstable approach event during Air Maroc wet lease. Of course this could happen to anyone... but people picked on him because all the **** he keeps on posting portraying himself as a nice person to fly with when the truth is the absolute the opposite.

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Old 5th Dec 2020, 12:36
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I interacted with him when he was fo at G9, he was respectful at that time but I have also heard a story that he hit gently a first officer at qr. I was quite surprised. However, he might did it in a friendly way and he was misunderstood by the fo and ended up getting reported. If things were so bad for him at qr then how did he get a fleet transfer? Well it looks like it is all about connections in this company. So any news for more redundancies? Actually, they want to call it redundancy. It is termination and goodbye. I don't believe an organization like qr that has people in management who lack of basic civilization manners and values will ever call back the same pilots. Especially the 330 ones for example. Why they should bring them back and train them on a new type (as 330s will all be gone) when they can just recruit new type rated people ?.. they just say this kind of bull... so people feel better. Looking constantly for a job as no one has a stable and safe employment in this place. Only the local ones and as long as the "bread maker" is there all the pilots will be scared to enter the cockpit, do a small mistake and then get terminated because of "redundancy'
If passengers knew how much scared and sweaty their drivers are, I doubt they would even buy tickets with qr

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Old 5th Dec 2020, 12:39
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He sounds like a total prat, wouldn't fancy sharing a cockpit with him hours on end. Seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to how the redundancies are made. I've read that the blockade may be about to be lifted and appears vaccines are imminent that's two bits of positive news for Qatar Airways.
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Old 5th Dec 2020, 17:20
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Return to pre covid Pax levels is years away. QR/EK/EY can pick and choose from the 1000's of disparate pilots when the need arises.
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Old 6th Dec 2020, 04:31
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I really doubt QR will get its landing rights back in UAE and Saudi Arabia, The news is a hype and most probably Saudi Arabia will allow Over flights over his airspace & Americans are trying to cut off 100M $ of Iran in over flight charges that Qatar gives them yearly.
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Old 12th Dec 2020, 22:47
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I recently went to my online application for direct entry captain B777/A380. ( won’t say which airline) Surprisingly, It was still there . I reviewed & updated my application, and hit submit. Its was received.

Maybe there will be recruitment sooner than many think. I myself am out of work, and would suffer reduced salary than from my previous employer , to go year 1 pay in the middle east. But better than nowt
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Old 13th Dec 2020, 11:18
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It has always been there, and clearly says all recruitment has stopped for the time being. It has for the last 9 months only taken expressions of interest. There is no news here.
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Old 13th Dec 2020, 15:01
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Things are bleak for pilot recruitment until the world turns the page from this pandemic and the economies start to pick up again. The governments and the media have whipped this storm up and it's going to take time to recover the question is how long it'll take I guess nobody knows we'll have to wait and see. With respect to QR I guess they'll be taking back a lot of the people they made redundant first before any recruitment occurs there's bound to be some kind of return pool like most airlines seem to be establishing. Good luck to all, bad times to be an airline pilot no doubt.
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 01:04
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Local F/Os might get promoted before expat Captains are employed again. A foreign copilot with 2000 hrs might be preferred over an experienced wide body Captain when hiring resumes, as the airlines will first need to replace their nationals who are being upgraded.

Once they run out of upgradable F/Os they’ll need to look at DECs again.
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 06:29
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I'm sure they can replace all fifteen of them in no time.
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Old 14th Dec 2020, 09:09
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This would also apply to other airlines which rely on expats. Whilst the foreigners are out of the way, they promote every local they can which would reduce the demand for Captains once things pick up again.
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