Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

Saudiís dirty game against its pilots

Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

Saudiís dirty game against its pilots

Old 3rd May 2020, 17:01
  #81 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: uae
Posts: 2,567
There may be no recovery! Saudia is not any different than most global carriers. Grim outlook for years to come . It's a harsh reality check . Standby for more contact / expat airlines to chop their pilots numbers indefinitely.
fatbus is offline  
Old 5th May 2020, 11:46
  #82 (permalink)  
kpd
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: galway ireland
Posts: 118
the guardian reports not just airlines could be affected=

Saudi Arabia has given private businesses a green light to cut salaries by 40% and terminate employment contracts, citing economic hardships caused by the pandemic.

The measures, which take effect immediately, allow for employees to be laid off after six months of reduced salaries Ė the effect of which is set to slash household incomes.
kpd is offline  
Old 5th May 2020, 14:28
  #83 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Mecca
Posts: 50
WHICH is EXACTLY what SAUDIA intended when they “offered” this No Pay Leave for 6 months to all its pilots.
Because now the ‘Termination without cause’ clause kicks in and interestingly the notice period for that clause is ZERO days notice and / or salary in lieu i.e Zero Days salary !! 🤬

Last edited by Lucifer786; 5th May 2020 at 16:21.
Lucifer786 is offline  
Old 6th May 2020, 09:14
  #84 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SAUDI
Posts: 300
I see from the majority of post things have not changed that much with the mental attitude and level of maturity of the locals. For those of you that have children, you know what it is like trying to reason with a five year old. For those that don't have children here is your first hand experience of how a five year old responds to reason.
finestkind is offline  
Old 10th May 2020, 00:49
  #85 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SAUDI
Posts: 300
Locals and AA Qirad. Perhaps you should look at why the remuneration is so good.
finestkind is offline  
Old 10th May 2020, 14:28
  #86 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Mini KSA
Posts: 146
Originally Posted by LOCALS View Post
itís okay no hard feelings , I wish you all the best in your home country , where ever you are from .. with us we always can replace one person Iím sure 😘
Couldn't be more local...
Python27 is offline  
Old 11th May 2020, 03:36
  #87 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: uae
Posts: 2,567
Just remember, most locals ars stuck in there countries. We expats can leave when the bucket is full.
fatbus is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 00:32
  #88 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SAUDI
Posts: 300
LOCALS. Thankyou. I dare say that one person you can easily replace will be with another xpat.
finestkind is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 02:56
  #89 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SAUDI
Posts: 300
LOCALS. A couple of points. It's not the salary that is being criticized it is the possible reduction or other issue that will bring into question on whether Saudair is a worthwhile employer. Secondly if you believe that you can attract professionals at the highest level without paying them accordingly, for not only the work they do but the conditions they live under, or renege on the contract I think you will find that pool of talent unavailable.
finestkind is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 03:54
  #90 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: uae
Posts: 2,567
It's safe to say those that hale from the ME truely believe the world revolves around them . For decades they have needed expertise from the western world , emiratization is a prime example of a failure. LOCALS believe what you want and continue to ignore the facts , it makes no difference to me or any other ME expat . Two bucket mate!


ps : not replaced yet ! Wonder why ? Lol
fatbus is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 10:36
  #91 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Moscow
Posts: 4
Lucifer786

It is hard to describe that place more correctly. History has seen a LOT of lessons for such cultures, but old books are not for progressive arabian muslims.

Last edited by palegreendot; 12th May 2020 at 11:42.
palegreendot is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 21:44
  #92 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Sandpit
Posts: 360
Good so far you were lucky just pushing buttons flying from A to B.
FlyingCroc is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 23:18
  #93 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SAUDI
Posts: 300
LOCALS if it was just a matter of pushing buttons to get from A to B then there would be no accidents.
finestkind is offline  
Old 12th May 2020, 23:20
  #94 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: SAUDI
Posts: 300
palegreendot. There is a saying "my father rode a camel, I drive a car, my son will ride a camel" The expectations is that the wheel will turn. There is no humility when you believe in your own righteousness no matter what occurs.

Last edited by finestkind; 13th May 2020 at 22:49.
finestkind is offline  
Old 13th May 2020, 00:09
  #95 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: uae
Posts: 2,567
Locals, no maid , no nanny just topping up the money bucket !
fatbus is offline  
Old 13th May 2020, 10:22
  #96 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: ME
Posts: 230
Having read some thoughts here I started doubting that civilization implied culture ...
Romasik is offline  
Old 15th May 2020, 09:39
  #97 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Saudi Arabia
Posts: 1
First of all it's heart me so bad to hear about what happened to Saudia expats, and i really want to ask the saudis to ( not meet abuse with abuse ). We have to understand as a human being
what all these people and their families have been through and what they are going through, as simple as it is it could be US instead of them !. personally i had the pleasure to fly and learn from them and it will be always. from them i have learned how to appreciate everything from them i have learned how to become a better pilot. my apologies and regret to everyone
Mike_Alpha99 is offline  
Old 15th May 2020, 17:02
  #98 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: uae
Posts: 2,567
Live and learn ( the hard way) if you work in the ME!
fatbus is offline  
Old 16th May 2020, 03:32
  #99 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Saudi Arabia
Posts: 1
Well , during the normal situation you have been working with no issues . This time most companies are facing issues because of COVID 19 , and they have to take an action toward this otherwise the company will face bankruptcy. I think you should be thankful that you have the options to take unpaid leave or get terminated. on the other hand , when it comes to professionals , Saudis have very well qualified people on different professions . Stop pretending that Saudi economy will run slower without expats .

Thanks
Jemmy Faisal is offline  
Old 16th May 2020, 10:25
  #100 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: saudi arabia
Posts: 1
Hi

Firstly, we did not see a single Saudi working for the airlines of your country, secondly if it was as bad as you claim then why did not leave it to get another job, thirdly the Saudis worked to provide oil to the world through Aramco and for decades , Are you sure we could not run an airline !!
Turki Alsamer is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.