Worse JS policy in industry
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Yes, you can purchase one but only waitlisted.
As I said before, a Cat A standby ticket should suffice, although others in this forum think otherwise.
An official clarification is needed.
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From: UK
To be honest this appears to be a of concern to those who would book at Cat C last minute to improve their chances if the flight looks tight. Far better in my view if its last minute and loads are tight to get a Cat A, then hope the jump-seat is open. Always have a plan B as well.
Yes we need clarification, yes there will be ASMs that will attempt to take the p1ss, but thats where being a bit clever and knowing how to work the rules in your favour is important.
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From: HK
Most of Emirates' foreign workforce originates from the world's largest kleptocracy, a society which is fundamentally and irretrievably corrupt at every level, from tea-stall owner to the highest court in the land. The reason your jumpseat pass is "fully ticketed" is because your management quite rightly assumes that if it was "captain's authority" to give out the jumpseat many of them would be selling that seat as a nice little earner.
The company will never, ever under any circumstances give the captain the chance to make money off the jumpseat. Ergo, you as the passenger will always pay for the privilege.
The company will never, ever under any circumstances give the captain the chance to make money off the jumpseat. Ergo, you as the passenger will always pay for the privilege.
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From: Nowhere
Charging for a Jumpseat? Unheard of. Both by any captain and by any company.
Why would anyone pay to ride in such an uncomfortable seat?
Who would charge any pilot to sit in that uncomfortable seat? Oh yes we know, our unscrupulous employer.
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From: Brit living in Malaysia
Personal standards, sadly, are not what they once were. That is true for most of society but is not an acceptable excuse.
Apologies for the Victor Meldrew impression.
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From: In a pipe in the upstairs water closet
Qantas has a policy if you can't get a seat, you can ask for the JS, but you won't be refunded the cost of a Y class ticket. So EK aren't the only ones 'selling' jumpseats.
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That is absolute rubbish - completely inaccurate.
Last edited by mmmbop; 28th July 2018 at 22:23.
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From: Rockytop, Tennessee, USA
I think several non-U.S. carriers will let you ride on the jumpseat if the plane is full but you have to buy a ticket. Years ago I rode jumpseat on a LH A320 intra-Europe. The plane was full so I was glad to get on but I had to buy some discounted ticket.
As with any good deal from the airlines, some colleagues will abuse it and mess it up for everyone. 
There have been scams with the jumpseat with American carriers where the company issues a positive space ticket on another carrier for deadhead on duty and a pilot gets a free jumpseat instead. They then try to refund the ticket to themselves or rebook it for personal use. Then, when they get caught, the union spends thousands of dollars on lawyers to keep the perp from getting fired.
Most U.S. airlines now have reciprocal jumpseat agreements and some folks will commute for years on other carriers to get to their domicile for work. I've had war bride colleagues that commuted from Asia and the UK to pick up their trips.
On U.S. carriers I'm not aware of any charge for the jumpseat, however, internationally you sometimes run into departure taxes that must be paid in local currency at a counter on the other side of security a long way from the gate.
There have been scams with the jumpseat with American carriers where the company issues a positive space ticket on another carrier for deadhead on duty and a pilot gets a free jumpseat instead. They then try to refund the ticket to themselves or rebook it for personal use. Then, when they get caught, the union spends thousands of dollars on lawyers to keep the perp from getting fired.
Most U.S. airlines now have reciprocal jumpseat agreements and some folks will commute for years on other carriers to get to their domicile for work. I've had war bride colleagues that commuted from Asia and the UK to pick up their trips.
On U.S. carriers I'm not aware of any charge for the jumpseat, however, internationally you sometimes run into departure taxes that must be paid in local currency at a counter on the other side of security a long way from the gate.
