Angry cabin crew (forum rumor)
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Wait and see.
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Dont forget the ones having loans/ mortages, or other reasons, why its nearly impossible to go for the other options. The ones from upstairs know this.
So that only leaves between 4-500 required, without considering resignations, which continue unabated
short flights long nights
And are they going to bond these new guys for five years? Not sure how that will go down!
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I don't disagree with some of your points. However, I would have thought that it's BECAUSE of the very reasons you state that, as a group, pilots are in a far stronger position to stand their ground than our cabin crew colleagues.
We need around 750-800 pilots over the next 12-14 months. We're getting a fraction of that number. Cabin crew recruitment has been frozen for the last 18 months and only now is it planned to re start with the earliest course being late April, early May. Without wishing to sound like the patronising git you accuse me of, if you were running this Company, which group do YOU think is the one the Company needs the most. Some of those cabin crew you refer to are just as much invested in their job as us. I would say that a large number of our pursers, CSV's and FG1's have spouses and children and, unlike the majority of pilots, also use their income to support extended family back home.
As for the disparaging comments, I'll stand by that. When I see your name on the EK dedicated forum along with Talparc and his like, then I'll retract my opinion that the majority of moaners haven't the balls!
Harry
We need around 750-800 pilots over the next 12-14 months. We're getting a fraction of that number. Cabin crew recruitment has been frozen for the last 18 months and only now is it planned to re start with the earliest course being late April, early May. Without wishing to sound like the patronising git you accuse me of, if you were running this Company, which group do YOU think is the one the Company needs the most. Some of those cabin crew you refer to are just as much invested in their job as us. I would say that a large number of our pursers, CSV's and FG1's have spouses and children and, unlike the majority of pilots, also use their income to support extended family back home.
As for the disparaging comments, I'll stand by that. When I see your name on the EK dedicated forum along with Talparc and his like, then I'll retract my opinion that the majority of moaners haven't the balls!
Harry
As far as which employee group has more to lose, I DID state that my opinion was a generality with exceptions. No need to virtue-signal.
I'm in the "enjoying-my-life" club with SOPS and a LOT of others, y'know, the ones who did a bit more than moan, and voted with their feet. I am doubtful we are welcome in the "EK dedicated forum".
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Super low key - probably brought the muppet patrol in this time who asked preassigned questions and blabbered how great EK life is - previous forum was just a glitch and everything has been resolved. Bonus for the VPs for such great work
I'd be shocked if they didn't have a few of the company shills paraded out for that one. The usual suspects who appear in every training video and think the company can do no wrong, Ek life is amazing, blah blah...
Friend still in the co said there were other videos of the mass attended 'forum' but have since disappeared. Apparently one was on YT. I wouldn't put it past to company to 'encourage' its removal a la CX and the low flyby video some years back...
Friend still in the co said there were other videos of the mass attended 'forum' but have since disappeared. Apparently one was on YT. I wouldn't put it past to company to 'encourage' its removal a la CX and the low flyby video some years back...
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I think Freddie Laker had it about right. He would call a meeting of pilots to hear their moans about pay, allowances etc. Book a large hall in a local pub and lay on free beer. Meeting called for 7.0pm Freddie turned up about twenty to nine, all present had, by now, liberally imbibed on Freddie's free beer. When he entered big cheer. "All right lads, things going OK?" another huge cheer, "Well lads, loads are up but yields are down, money a bit tight, hope for an improvement next year", big cheer again, Freddie leaves, smiling, laughing, happy pilots concentrate on finishing off the free beer. Only the next day do they realise they have been 'had'! No one got too upset as it was a great place to work otherwise.
EK advertising externally for VP Cabin Crew.
Either they've realised they need 'new blood' (doubt it considering the way :B was shunted out) or they're sticking the ad up so no one can say they 'didn't try' to get someone new
Either they've realised they need 'new blood' (doubt it considering the way :B was shunted out) or they're sticking the ad up so no one can say they 'didn't try' to get someone new