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Old 1st Feb 2019, 18:07
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Originally Posted by VORDME2 View Post
This is KALís idea of enhancing the package.
A bit more meat on the bone? e.g. huh?
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Old 1st Feb 2019, 23:10
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Hi guys, can you give some intel on screening process, medical, Korean ATPL , subsequent training? Maybe some monthly roster of 737? I'm B737 captain, 11,000 total, currently flying in Japan for Skymark exploring new options.

Thanks
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Old 2nd Feb 2019, 04:42
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A bit more meat on the bone? e.g. huh?
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Old 3rd Feb 2019, 11:35
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Canít wait for my captains hat!
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Old 3rd Feb 2019, 15:44
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I worked there for 10 year on the 777. If you can get through the training (you have to understand the system), this is the best job on the planet.
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Old 15th Feb 2019, 23:42
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Originally Posted by 777AV8R View Post
I worked there for 10 year on the 777. If you can get through the training (you have to understand the system), this is the best job on the planet.

777AV8R knows of what he speaks. He added value to his next position as well in due course.

Korea is a unique country and people. The country itself is beautiful, and anyone immersing in the local area and culture will gain something from it. The language is interesting, and is quite enjoyable to learn, which will assist slightly, but is not otherwise needed. The airline engineering is remarkable; in 9,000 hours I had a single MEL for despatch. faults occur, but the engineers are the strength of the program.

The training program was and appears to remain, an ordeal. It is different, and not in a fun way. Anyone going there should consider it a rite of passage or an initiation ceremony to survive. It is not surprising, foreigners in any country are interlopers, and they are directly in the line of the rice bowl. If foreign pilots were brought into Delta or American, you would expect some friction, it is part of the reality of how humans behave.

Koreans as individuals can be incredibly generous. Don't lose your temper at any time, it is considered to be demeaning to you.

The contract was more or less always honoured, and generally activities are stable.

There are good people there, the locals and foreigners, and there have also been appalling foreigners and locals, it is a cross section of humanity.

Standard procedures are standard; There is good reason to be standard, and there is zero justification to not be standard. Foreign pilots from countries with strong individuality and propensity to ad-hoc, on the fly solutions are not tolerated there. Given the underlying language issues, it is paramount to be standardised,

Overall, it is a reasonable airline, but it is entirely dependent on the individuals temperament, consider it a mirror.

Getting involved in management is fraught with local politics, and results in confliction as often as not. Not impossible, but expect blowback.

good luck,

Overall, KE permits your family to stay home where they want to be, at the cost of your work demands. EK/EY is a lower stress environment to work, but you are in a sandpit. dealers choice, and good luck. As often as not, you will find the grass is greener next door due to some unpleasant realities that are discovered after you have jumped the fence. As you have a finite set of heartbeats, and ostensibly we are all working for our time with family, each person will have an optimal solution which may well be living in your own environment and enjoying your time with your family, in Europe, USA, Canada or wherever else. Both money and heartbeats get used up



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Old 18th Feb 2019, 15:17
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Can anyone please pm me salary details for 737 Capt, it's one thing what an agency tells you but what's the reality?
and possibly even a roster or two please
Many thanks
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 22:43
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Salary Details

Originally Posted by italian stallion View Post
Can anyone please pm me salary details for 737 Capt, it's one thing what an agency tells you but what's the reality?
and possibly even a roster or two please
Many thanks
Generally, 'What you see, is what you get' The per-diems are not that great. You will stay at the Hyatt ICN, which is owned by the airline owners.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 11:44
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Korean Air Family

I heard you have to live in hyatt hotel. What about bringing my family there, do they provide housing ?
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 13:13
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Originally Posted by tgo15 View Post
I heard you have to live in hyatt hotel. What about bringing my family there, do they provide housing ?

i dont think you can bring your family.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 17:11
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Any recommendations regarding a reputable agency to use to apply to Korean?
Thanks in advance.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 23:16
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No Housing

Originally Posted by tgo15 View Post
I heard you have to live in hyatt hotel. What about bringing my family there, do they provide housing ?
This is a commuting contract. Best on the planet. No need to have family there and there is no benefit unless you have another circumstance.
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Old 25th Feb 2019, 23:18
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PM me for information
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 05:41
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Don’t use CCL
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 09:20
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I’ve been using CCL to apply, and so far they’ve been very efficient.
The portal through which you load all your documents etc. Is very user friendly, and I’m told by the guys in the London office, it’s going to get even easier to use for future applicants.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 09:49
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Originally Posted by italian stallion View Post
Any recommendations regarding a reputable agency to use to apply to Korean?
Thanks in advance.
The four I have heard of are Rishworth, CCL, Direct Personnel and TAS.

You will find good and bad stories for them all I suspect, as it's a very subjective matter and especially so if someone applies and doesn't get in. It's going to be largely down to personal preference. They say first impressions count so why not contact them all and take it from there.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 10:33
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Originally Posted by italian stallion View Post
Any recommendations regarding a reputable agency to use to apply to Korean?
Thanks in advance.

​​​​​​Heard many histories of all the brokers around. The only common opinion is about rishworse...
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 10:58
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Thanks for the info guys, will be great to hear how your progress goes those who are applying.
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Old 26th Feb 2019, 12:03
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Documents

May i know what kind of documents they asked for joining korean air ? (Except the one is written)
and im curious , what about the meal, if we order some food at the hotel, is it on them ? Or is it from us (our diem) last one is, at the end.. how many days a month they give you , 9 or 11 or 12? I need to know the exact answer because my family are living on the other part of the world. Thanks
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Old 27th Feb 2019, 02:49
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Agency for kal

what happen with ccl? What about gap & rish?
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