EK - Potential 787 order and company direction
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I'm not sure many of our new joiners are coming here with thoughts of a quick command any more. Most are joining for their first jet job..at the very least for their first wide-body job. I doubt many are under the illusion they'll be getting a command at EK any time soon. I'll bet the majority are here to get the hours and move on to something more long term.
Nope, Airbus says that size and performance count more than cockpit layout.
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A vs B, whatever...my spies tell me that the 787 would be run as a separate fleet, with no MFF, so I'd guess the 350 would be the same. Crews can get qualified by CCQ but then remain on a single type, despite GCAA ATPLs having both 777/787 listed as a common type.
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Quite a few airlines that operate them seperately right? What could be the reason behind that? Just interested as Boeings selling point would be cross commonality and a common typerating.
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At a guess a reason for separation would be 773, 77W, 77L, 77-8, 77-9 then throw 78-8/9 in. Then with small (<30 order) would expect a Max of 2 78 Sims so Recurrent Training bottleneck. Way too many differences to make viable safety case for MFF until Fleet Retirement leaves 77-8/9 and 78-8/9.
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773, 77W, 77L, 77-8, 77-9 then throw 78-8/9 in
Most probably a fleet with 788/789 plus 778/779 will be in force. That's basically 2 types with each 2 different lengths. No problem at all for MFF, just a matter of certification, meaning money. But this would be put off so fast with the efficiency.
MFF for 350 and 380 might be achievable, but i would fancy very expensive. Let's not forget that between a 2-holer and a 4-holer there are extensive operational and performance differences.
Well the two holer 330 and the four holer 340 seemed to work ok. So maybe it aint the number of engines.
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It was to a certain extent, because you needed an alternating PPC , which was always somewhat of a planning stumbling block.
Basically the reason why most actual 78 operators don't opt for MFF, is that the fleet is still too small. With an eventual order from EK, the 78 numbers would warrant for the MFF purchase, because hearing through the grapevine, the 78/77 MFF would not have this PPC restriction.
Basically the reason why most actual 78 operators don't opt for MFF, is that the fleet is still too small. With an eventual order from EK, the 78 numbers would warrant for the MFF purchase, because hearing through the grapevine, the 78/77 MFF would not have this PPC restriction.
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Two weeks ago, this site claimed the 787 deal was done:
http://www.strategicaeroresearch.com/2017/07/17/done-deal-emirates-selects-787s-over-a350s
There is also a post by an Emirates crew member/staff who also claims that FCOM docs for 787 are within Emirates documentation.
Also, is it true that many EK drivers are now dual rated for 777-787?
What about the planned 777X drivers?
http://www.strategicaeroresearch.com/2017/07/17/done-deal-emirates-selects-787s-over-a350s
There is also a post by an Emirates crew member/staff who also claims that FCOM docs for 787 are within Emirates documentation.
Also, is it true that many EK drivers are now dual rated for 777-787?
What about the planned 777X drivers?
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Airbus MFF 380 - 350 not going to happen. The A380 has the original Airbus concept cockpit with additional toys. The A350 was a new design cockpit which got away from the older designs.
The cockpit differences, along with the specifications and performance differences make it a bad MFF option.
EK drivers nearly wrote of an A340 with much more similar cockpits and closer operating weights. Not going to happen in my opinion.
J
The cockpit differences, along with the specifications and performance differences make it a bad MFF option.
EK drivers nearly wrote of an A340 with much more similar cockpits and closer operating weights. Not going to happen in my opinion.
J
