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Old 8th Jan 2017, 17:11
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I was wondering if the problems Emirates is going through was not made of 3 different points, 2 being errors of strategy.
1) The fact that 2 other middle eastern companies are going through the same sort of gigantic expansion, therefore competing for the same customers.
2) Wrong choice of fleet or should I say too many huge aircrafts and no smaller ones which could help cushion the drop of business on some routes (Keep the route but put a smaller aircraft for instance).
3) and maybe the most important to me. Is Emirates not going totally wrong by keeping the 7 across config in its new B777 business class cabin when more and more adopt a 4 across? The seats look nice and bling bling but the individual minibar may not be enough to lure customer in a config which is now considered as of another era.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 04:15
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Seat sale in Oz at the moment AUD1400 return to London...sounds like low yield to me but hey, I'm just a pirate....
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 07:58
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You are so wrong, buddy.

1) The ME competition is negligible. EK can scrap two hulls and still end up ahead in a safety listing.
2) EK has the absolutely correct fleet. Operating 92+ dugongs is an unseen success. All other airline managers are completely wrong in snubbing this aerodynamic marvel, according to STC. What would we need smaller aircraft for?
3) 7 abreast on T7s is no problem at all. No one complains anyway, because they are all upgraded from the 9 abreast Y-class. And if you still don't like it, wait until all 140+ dugongs are deployed on every possible route, then even the silly minibar is obsolete because you will have a superb full-size bar to wait until you will eventually be served without trolley on a 76 business seater.
4) to PB: There is no sale on at EK. STC said himself "We open the doors and they flock in!"
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 10:53
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Don, you need proof of falling premium class yields and ticket prices. Straight from horse's mouth. There are multiple interviews since June '16

The only reason I could think of why Costa dwellers like just two type model, in a flexible fleet model they cannot squeeze crew like they do now.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 13:19
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Glo

What are these 9 abreast y class aircraft you speak of? If only..........

Other than that, love the sarcasm.

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 13:33
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Harry, check out SIA 777. 9 accross in Y , 4 accross in J. And having flown Y in a 777 SIA aircfaft, it is heaven compared to 10 across.
Sorry, now have picked up the thread, sorry Harry.

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Old 9th Jan 2017, 14:27
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Etihad used to have 9 across in Y - not sure if they have changed that though.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 14:52
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harry, right you are ..... wishful thinking ..... EK operates the horrible double digit.
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Old 9th Jan 2017, 19:30
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-01-05/will-it-be-a-borderless-world-for-emirates-under-trump

Good interview with author

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Old 10th Jan 2017, 10:20
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Turkish also has the 9-across in Y. But EK's onboard product quality has been slipping for years. Buying Skytrax awards doesn't fix that.

EK's crammed space is truly shocking towards the end of a ULR drudge. Like the steerage section of the Titanic. Of course, one gets a good whiff of it all as they wearily attempt to make their way from the "*Crew Rest Compartment" at the back...

*CRC: the made-up EK term, unsanctioned by Boeing, who actually designates the rear bunks as "OFAR" (Overhead Flight Attendant Rest) and the proper flight deck rest area as the "OFCR" (Overhead Flight Crew Rest) compartments.

Never did find out how EK got regulatory approval to locate the pilots 180 feet away from the flight deck in such a amateurish setup. Just glad I now have the proper compartment as designed by the manufacturer, no more silly cart-dodging.
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