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Old 26th May 2016, 12:26
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Emirates or Qatar

I have been offered an FO position with both Emirates and Qatar. I am in a dilemma as to which one to take. Guys at Qatar seem to be a lot happier, however the downside is living in Doha (I have a wife and 2 young kids). Dubai from what we have seen is more family friendly, however guys at Emirates don't seem to be as happy.

Any guidance or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 26th May 2016, 22:53
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Doha is a hole, but good pay & promotion.
Emirates screws their staff, but Dubai is a good place to live for some.
Do you have plan C?
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Old 26th May 2016, 22:57
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Emirates or Qatar? Neither!
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Old 26th May 2016, 23:19
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No comaparison

There is no comparison between the two one is a dump and the other still bareable ... The other you don't mention would be the better one ... Take your pick
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Old 27th May 2016, 06:03
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Neither, stay home and change careers
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Old 27th May 2016, 06:17
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Originally Posted by bluwbird View Post
I have been offered an FO position with both Emirates and Qatar. I am in a dilemma as to which one to take. Guys at Qatar seem to be a lot happier, however the downside is living in Doha (I have a wife and 2 young kids). Dubai from what we have seen is more family friendly, however guys at Emirates don't seem to be as happy.

Any guidance or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
Do not come to this site for help. Only thing you get here is bitterness and negativity. Ask friends and colleagues. Do not base your decision upon this site. Everyone has their own goals in life and what works for someone does not work for the other.
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Old 27th May 2016, 06:41
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Do not come to this site for help. Only thing you get here is bitterness and negativity. Ask friends and colleagues. Do not base your decision upon this site. Everyone has their own goals in life and what works for someone does not work for the other
I agree. Try and get an interview. See what you think of the company and talk to pilots while you are here.
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Old 27th May 2016, 06:56
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My bad, I didn't notice that you had already interviewed.
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Old 27th May 2016, 07:04
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Flyingishere,

Yes, ignore the negativity at your own peril. Naive noob
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Old 27th May 2016, 07:28
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Flyingishere,

Yes, ignore the negativity at your own peril. Naive noob
If you and others can give negative advice and just bombard everyone who actually try to make the better out of a crappy job/society, then I'm entitled to give my two cents. I am a noob indeed but I am not tilted behind my pc screen everyday and look for gratification from fellow PPRuNe tilters
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Old 27th May 2016, 08:15
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Originally Posted by bluwbird View Post
I have been offered an FO position with both Emirates and Qatar. I am in a dilemma as to which one to take. Guys at Qatar seem to be a lot happier, however the downside is living in Doha (I have a wife and 2 young kids). Dubai from what we have seen is more family friendly, however guys at Emirates don't seem to be as happy.

Any guidance or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
First question. Did your wife visit both places? A lot depends on Missus bluwbird and her opinion!

Growing up 2 kids in DXB is a rather expensive challenge. Keep in mind that the EK school allowance doesn't cover the total cost and you'll have to put a significant amount on top.You might end up and subsidize the school with more then 1 months salary. The EK deal is just an "average deal", nothing more. It seems that QR improved their T&C's, their was a lot of complaining, but that seems to be history.

Try to compare the QOL in DXB and Doha. DXB is a fancy but also an expensive place. And keep in mind that DXB will introduce a VAT by 2018. That means another salary decrease.....

Don't get me wrong, it's not impossible to raise 2 kids in DXB on a FO salary, but it's an challenge. Don't expect to save a lot of money, forget the new fancy SUV and entertainment is mostly at home.

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Old 27th May 2016, 10:00
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I'm surprised flyingishere can post so much, given the amount of time spent in Costas yakking to the other drones....
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Old 27th May 2016, 10:25
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Old 27th May 2016, 10:41
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I'm surprised flyingishere can post so much, given the amount of time spent in Costas yakking to the other drones....
Yet you post something everyday and complain because of fatigue and not enough rest. Perhaps get your ass away from the computer and sleep a bit.
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Old 27th May 2016, 11:12
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Bluwbird, congratulations on getting the offers, you'd think that's the hard work done but no
The crucial question is what fleet / type?
It's a very different life on different type fleets within a company, let alone different companies.
ALL airlines in this region and I mean all, are screaming for crew, especially experienced on type and we are talking of 3-400 per year per major carrier! You can include Turkish delight; Ethiopian; Saudia; Oman; NAS; Gulf; DHL and many new start up carriers to "the big 3" also. All with quite different rostering and fleets, so your fleet and their rostering are crucial.
On another point, this "hole" region is very hard to take especially in the hot Ramadan months to come (where most of the locals actually disappear to EU/USA)... and especially if you or your Wife have had no previous time here... it's quite a culture shock. In that sense - moseisley's advice hangs true, so be aware of AIDS (Aviation Induced Divorce Syndrome).

Anyway Happy landings.

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Old 27th May 2016, 11:25
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Coffee's getting cold flyingishere...

Just registered on PPRuNe in March. So either you're new to the company or you had another handle and got outed as a management stooge...?
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Old 27th May 2016, 11:34
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Originally Posted by sluggums View Post
Coffee's getting cold flyingishere...

Just registered on PPRuNe in March. So either you're new to the company or you had another handle and got outed as a management stooge...?
New and happy! Especially making you and others tilt
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Old 27th May 2016, 11:38
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Ah, new (naive) and happy... That explains it.
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Old 27th May 2016, 11:40
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Ah, new and happy... That explains it, and an expert of all things EK.
Never said I'm an expert just giving my 2 cents

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Old 27th May 2016, 11:53
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With a wife and two kids, Qatar. Never thought i would say that! You as a family will be fine and Doha is not bad for family life. EK you will be so tired that the place won't matter. Unless you a direct 380.
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