EK Annual Leave Ticket
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Not quite the same as a paying passenger. If the passenger is offloaded they will be compensated with an additional round trip ticket. You will not. So the question has now become, "Who will they offload first?" Most likely the one who is not entitled to compensation would be a fair guess. This is a recent change.
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According to the staff travel manual, the offload is treated as a full fare pax. You'll still get the extra round trip ticket. Unless the recent update you mention isn't the in the current staff travel manual available on the portal.
If you get downgraded, then there's no compensation though.
According to the staff travel manual, the offload is treated as a full fare pax. You'll still get the extra round trip ticket. Unless the recent update you mention isn't the in the current staff travel manual available on the portal.
If you get downgraded, then there's no compensation though.
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Don't you people get free tickets all around the year?
The airline which I work for, I can book a Business Class tickets for me and my family anytime I want
Yeah they I don't get housing allowance or a Pickup/drop to the airport as a Pilot.
By Free tickets I mean I only have to pay the tax, not the fare.
The airline which I work for, I can book a Business Class tickets for me and my family anytime I want
Yeah they I don't get housing allowance or a Pickup/drop to the airport as a Pilot.
By Free tickets I mean I only have to pay the tax, not the fare.
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Hello,
Does anyone have any documentation/reference regarding the policy on downgrade when using ALT's?
I was booked J firm, upgrade to F subject to availability, got downgraded to Y due overbooking, company now will not reissue the ALT!
I know they have reissued ALT's in the past, I'm just looking for the reference.
Thanks.
Does anyone have any documentation/reference regarding the policy on downgrade when using ALT's?
I was booked J firm, upgrade to F subject to availability, got downgraded to Y due overbooking, company now will not reissue the ALT!
I know they have reissued ALT's in the past, I'm just looking for the reference.
Thanks.
Was it a two or three class flight?
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Yes the change happened 2-3 months back. (Before Christmas.) I remember reading it, but unsure where.
The same happened to me going to US.
Basically it allows EK to remove ALT tickets when filling an airplane. I was also told the flight was over sold and EK policy is to downgrade employees first. ALT's now mean little. Just priority in getting on over other nonrevs. No compensation is given unless you are off-loaded. You will not, however get your lost vacation day returned if you are offloaded. Ek is a business, over selling the flight really hurts no one. Well, no one of significance. As you just experienced.
The same happened to me going to US.
Basically it allows EK to remove ALT tickets when filling an airplane. I was also told the flight was over sold and EK policy is to downgrade employees first. ALT's now mean little. Just priority in getting on over other nonrevs. No compensation is given unless you are off-loaded. You will not, however get your lost vacation day returned if you are offloaded. Ek is a business, over selling the flight really hurts no one. Well, no one of significance. As you just experienced.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, was that a actual change to the protocol or just a change to the wording to highlight it. 12 years ago neighbour was downgraded at the gate because of last min full fare.
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Tell them you'll take the denied boarding so they have to give you a full fare ticket plus meals etc and make sure they book you on the next flight using the full fare ticket.
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STM A4 - 4 refers; "Overbooking - Voluntary/Compulsory Offload"
Note that check in are required to ask all pax to voluntarily offload with benefits before they dump you.
As I read it, you are not obliged to take the Y seat even if that means the a/c goes with empty seats.
Having reread, I was wrong about using the freebie for the next flight. It's not available for use for 7 days!
Camelrustler
Either the policy has recently changed or you were "mislead".
STM A4 - 4 refers; "Overbooking - Voluntary/Compulsory Offload"
Note that check in are required to ask all pax to voluntarily offload with benefits before they dump you.
As I read it, you are not obliged to take the Y seat even if that means the a/c goes with empty seats.
Having reread, I was wrong about using the freebie for the next flight. It's not available for use for 7 days!
Camelrustler
EK policy is to downgrade employees first.
Helen,
Have spent the morning discussing this with a HR muppet. Seems para 1.7 (cant copy and paste for some reason) is where we are screwed. It states that if you don't get the upgrade, or are downgraded it is considered you have used your ALT and there is no compensation.
So it does appear that the Class of travel in your contract is considered overridden by the last amendment to the staff travel manual. And it is a new amendment as stated above.
Time to write to TICH
Have spent the morning discussing this with a HR muppet. Seems para 1.7 (cant copy and paste for some reason) is where we are screwed. It states that if you don't get the upgrade, or are downgraded it is considered you have used your ALT and there is no compensation.
So it does appear that the Class of travel in your contract is considered overridden by the last amendment to the staff travel manual. And it is a new amendment as stated above.
Time to write to TICH
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The list of contractual breaches in EK keeps getting longer and longer...
hard to picture that this airline was the first choice - almost a dream to work for - for expat pilots over a decade ago
How can you convince quality talent to join when the word on the street is that that contract you sign on thick and expensive quality paper with golden titles will mean NOTHING to one of the sides as they ignore the agreement in regards to leave days, class for annual leave tickets etc.?
How can anyone consider such an employer a serious and trustworthy entity?
hard to picture that this airline was the first choice - almost a dream to work for - for expat pilots over a decade ago
How can you convince quality talent to join when the word on the street is that that contract you sign on thick and expensive quality paper with golden titles will mean NOTHING to one of the sides as they ignore the agreement in regards to leave days, class for annual leave tickets etc.?
How can anyone consider such an employer a serious and trustworthy entity?
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Helen,
I spoke with six Staff Travel people that evening. They finally made a call to the "Supreme Supervisor" and over the phone they confirmed this was the case. I argued that I was using ALT's and was informed, "There is no difference, staff are downgraded before paying passengers."
Logically they have to compensate the paying passenger, but they do not compensate us.
I spoke with six Staff Travel people that evening. They finally made a call to the "Supreme Supervisor" and over the phone they confirmed this was the case. I argued that I was using ALT's and was informed, "There is no difference, staff are downgraded before paying passengers."
Logically they have to compensate the paying passenger, but they do not compensate us.