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Old 21st Oct 2015, 00:29
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Pudoc, it says on the web site under career path, 5 years. People on here generally know what they are talking about.


http://www.emiratesgroupcareers.com/...pilot_faq.aspx
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 02:24
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Emirates does not have a bond.

I may have said this before.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 05:26
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Dropp you should tell that to HR because they offer contracts with specific reference to a bond. Mine has it in black and white. I think your idea of the definition of a bond is different to that of the other 3800 pilots in the company, plus all of HR.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 12:47
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SOPS, it states here otherwise.

FAQ's | Flight Deck Crew | Explore Our Careers | Emirates Group Careers Centre

Hence my confusion.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 13:44
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Others maybe more up to date, but as far as I know it's 5 years.

Welcome to smoke and mirrors.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 14:56
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Pilots, go to the FAQ's and select "career path and rostering", there is a question there about the training bond. It states 5 years and 42K.
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Old 21st Oct 2015, 18:43
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Seems to be conflict of information as I see both references… one pertaining to a 3 year $36K bond and the other link clearly stating 5 year $42K bond.

Imagine that…. two documents saying completely different things! How can that be??? :-)

Which do you think EK would probably do?? (Rhetorical question…)

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Old 21st Oct 2015, 19:34
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I have a 5 year bond because I asked for it. They offered me 3 but I told them no way. I was kinda feeling half f*cked.
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Old 22nd Oct 2015, 03:24
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Eagle have you heard of th flo through to AA? You guys don't even have to interview now, you are guaranteed a slot so cut the crap about not knowing anyone or being in the military.
I don't know what AA is thinking in that regard, how can they not interview or want to know a little bit about who is going to fly their airplanes but this is their decision not mine.
In a year or two you will be making more than $100,000 at AA so stay in the US and enjoy the US Majors.
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Old 22nd Oct 2015, 08:49
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Hi guys,

Having read countless posts about how busy the flying schedule is and how demoralising it has become working for EK I still have a question.

Is there any financial gain in joining as an F/O now? This is actually my only motivation.

Yes, it is cool flying big jets but that soon wears off, yeah it is nice to fly all over the world visiting new places (only if you're in the right fleet and manage to grab layovers instead of turnaround flights) but after a while that excitement will start to fade out. Living in Dubai could be interesting for some time as well but ultimately that is not my thing either.

My situation right now is that I have a permanent contract flying in France for the "orange clockwork" (no pun nor offence intended) and honestly, I don't see myself retiring as a pilot, either here or in EK. This job is not what I thought it was going to be so my plan is to work, save some money and in the future move to another position either within this industry or somewhere else.

The EK thing looked like an option from the perspective of trying long haul before quitting flying for good but also because it would give me the chance to accumulate some savings. I don't lead an expensive nor hedonist way of life so the tax free salary seemed the perfect match for me.

Please don't burn me for asking this question. I may have skipped the answer as there are too many threads and posts talking about EK in which case I would apologyse and kindly ask you to direct me to them.

Public or private message me. I am genuinely interested in knowing if a "normal" average monthly wage of an F/O is better in EK or here with my current orange employer.

On another note, this campaign is looking pilots for any specific fleet? I understand they would allocate candidates according to their needs but I would like to know which is the most likely entry fleet.

Thanks in advance and happy flying!

FCC

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Old 22nd Oct 2015, 13:57
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Hi people,

I'm considering EK right now but I have a few doubts... one of them regarding the annual leave...

So, it looks like they can give you whatever they want? Like this month they give 3 days of "vacations" and the next more 5... like this? I thought it must be in multiple of 7, like at least 7 consecutive days, or 14, or 21, or 28... and I also read that they are not achieving the promoted 42 days of annual leave, is that true?

And about the schedule, so you can't ask more than 4 consecutive days off? Is it possible to ask for the last 4 days of a month and the 4 first days of the next month so you got 8 consecutive days?


Thank you for answering...
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Old 22nd Oct 2015, 14:04
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Ex-brazilian,

It is fair to say that the big majority of pilots are owed leave. Some 5 days, some several weeks, some even more than 1 month that have been accumulated... this is what people I fly with tell me.

I currently do not know anyone who has got his 42 days contractual leave awarded this year. There might be someone but I just don't know that person.

Whether you get 7 or multiples... I never heard of that. You can bid I think a minimum of 5. However the company usually "assigns" or "forces" leave on people which sometimes is as short as 4 days and it is just inserted in your roster without you having any say on it (even if you requested a million different combinations of leave before that were all rejected).

If your plan is to go to Brazil (I'm assuming you're from there) I can tell you you might be able to join 2 or max 3 periods of leave to go there per year. As things stand today. Hope it was useful.

Regarding days off, it is unlikely that you will get more than 5 in a row. Usually you will get 3-5 in a row once a month depending on your fleet. And no, you can't bid for 5 at the end and 5 at the beginning. I mean you can, but 100% you will not get it.
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