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Emirates accommodation.

Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:26
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Emirates accommodation.

Just about to send off my application to Emirates then someone sent me pictures of the meydan accommodation. Can't say I was too impressed. Questions:
1. After a while if you opt out and buy a property in dubai can you use your allowance to cover the mortgage?
2. With 1500 hours A330 and 8000 hours total, what fleet could I expect and what is the latest time to command?
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:40
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Yes you can opt out at any time. More than likely 380 and upgrades at the moment @6 years . New hires will need attrition to continue for upgrades. Only about 40 to 50 additional AC to be added in the next 5 years.
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:41
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Hi Michaela,
Be very aware the Meydan pictures look better than the real house....
To answer your queries,
1) Yes,although you should be ready to cough up 20-30% upfront...
2) Most likely A380
Hope that helps...
Now be ready for incoming comments..

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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:44
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I'm not saying a word.
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 11:51
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3000hrs airbus FBW time needed for direct onto the 380. So if only 1500hrs it would be the 330 regardless of your total.
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 13:08
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Hmm, buying a property here requires a whole new thread. Not as easy as one would think. Not only should you think very carefully about coming here, you need to think even more carefully about buying here. Do a lot of research on buying property here and the laws that accompany that.
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 16:41
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1500 FBW for the the 380
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 17:11
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The allowance is not assured and in the past has been denied. To some extent it depends on the supply/demand for company accommodation. Can anyone confirm if recent joiners to Meydan have later received the allowance?
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 19:22
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Michaela

If you think the accommodation allowance will be available in 5 years time, let alone the duration of a mortgage then I have a bridge to sell you.
What do you think the Meydan ďProjectsĒ are all about?

The idea is to build cheap accommodation so they donít have to pay millions in accommodation allowance. The build cost of each Meydan unit is less than the yearly allowance for a captain. And they get to keep the property.
On top of this they simplify the accommodation departmentís workload, transport requirements, hours of administration with other landlords, distribution of allowances etc.

Once they have build thousands of units, (which are well on their way) they will offer anyone who is out of company accommodation a unit. If they donít want it they will be told they can fend for themselves and there will be successive cuts in the accommodation allowance or they will simply withdraw it.

At the very least it will not be offered to new joiners in the very near future.
Donít do your financial planning with the accommodation allowance factored in. That would be folly indeed!

After all, if you view it from their perspective, they are simply going to do what you plan to do: Pay for their cheap building with the accommodation allowance they were going to give you!
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Old 30th Jan 2015, 23:43
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I agree with jebus and pixy,
Do not (literally) bank on the accomadtion allowance. The company has a legal obligation to pro vide accomadtion to its employees, it does not have the legal obligation to pay for an employees mortgage.

Also, big changes are coming to our pay structure and flying hours and they will not benefit the pilots or their families.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 03:13
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Would you care to elaborate Desdi?
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 04:30
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I hope a close friend in the office is wrong, he was briefed on some of what is coming down the line and was shocked.
The guy doesn't BS.

He did not want to go into detail but it involves giving with one hand (a small pay increase in a few months) and then increasing hours and reducing days off a few months later.

The company wants to open new routes but we do not have the pilots for them, plus that requirement to have an augmenting pilot on someof the night turns reduces the number of available pilots.

This warrants a separate thread.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 04:33
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Spot on Pixy.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 08:03
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The question is Desdi, just how many more hours do they think it is possible for people to fly?
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 08:33
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No. The question is, how many more days and hours productivity and how many less days off and leave will they be able to have the GCAA swallow.

People have never been a concern to companies in this region.
It's only greed.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 08:46
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Feb 3 ULR's, productivity,16 off days, don't care how the hr are calculated it's still extra cash . Can't swap but don't care.just do the job and enjoy the time off.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 08:51
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With regards to Pixy's very astute post, don't think it can't happen. Look at CX A vs B vs C vs D scales, and that's with some sort of union protection! I fear that there will be no "Grandfather" clause, it will be one foul swipe of the pen and we're all on D scale. It will come as an update of the employee regulations manual, which we get often, and is definitely worth a read!!!
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 08:57
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Feb 3 ULR's, productivity,16 off days, don't care how the hr are calculated it's still extra cash . Can't swap but don't care.just do the job and enjoy the time off.
Enjoy it while you can. This time next year expect 3 turnarounds within those 16 off days and to be paid less for it too.
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 09:42
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Don't think so or should I say I know so!
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Old 31st Jan 2015, 09:51
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Exit strategy in place then I guess.
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