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Old 1st Feb 2015, 16:16
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Lates Rumours (to become fact)?

When enough of the 2200 Meydan South villas are built and the already 500 (+ others) at Meydan Heights, then the company will change its current strategy for future cost savings.

It is not a right of yours that the company pays your mortgage with the living out allowance and you will be offered a villa as the living out allowances will be scrapped in the future. Should you wish to continue to live out and purchase a property then as per the normal world, you will have to finance that mortgage burden from your own salary.

There will become a park and ride service near the Meyday Camps and those living out will have to drive to the parking area where a shuttle bus service will run the flight crews into EGHQ.

Do not think that this is not in the peipeline, prepare accordingly.

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Old 1st Feb 2015, 16:51
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I doubt the Park n Ride theory... After all that effort to get us into 'world class uniforms' and look like a crowd of clones I don't see Corp Comms wanting us packed into busses like we're on our way to the building site!!! What would the general public think? Shock horror...........
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 17:00
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Also, the latest rumour from Meydan North is that people are going to be shifted down to Meydan South once the place is up and running.

Apparently the numerous problems with the villas and particularly drainage have been caused by the contractor taking an amount for each villa and then only spending 65% of that on the actual place, cutting corners left, shite and centre and pocketing the rest.

Have to admit that it's almost funny to see someone else take the p*ss out of EK if it's true.

Now back to Blot, Bang, Rub........
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 17:03
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A thread that perfectly fits the title of the site, rumour. The 2200 villas will be swallowed up by newbies in the time they are built. Hours, days off, etc etc, it still won't scare away the new hires. You need new fodder, canning the housing allowance would be bad for Dubai PLC and I suspect lead to widespread departures.
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 17:24
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The closeness of the villas at MH is very welcoming for a fire to rip through the lot of them, just as well no street there is called "Pudding Lane".

Talking about fire in the MH houses, there is ONLY access via the front door, otherwise via the 10ft wall surrounding the pet poop parlour out the back. Should a fire occur at the front of the house I do hope you keep a ladder out the back in the box/yard.
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 17:44
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Meydan South? Are they the ones currently under construction on the corner of Al Ain Rd and Sheikh Mohammad Rd?
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Old 1st Feb 2015, 21:46
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There will become a park and ride service near the Meyday Camps and those living out will have to drive to the parking area where a shuttle bus service will run the flight crews into EGHQ.
A bus every ten minutes - perfect. Which bus should one take to arrive at the HQ exactly one legal hour before departure instead of 1:45?

It'll never happen because management are not that stupid, are they? ARE they? No, surely they're not THAT stupid.
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 11:23
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A little fear mongering here. The housing allowance will not change. Existing mortgages, contracts etc. not to mention they have all the locals relying on that benefit. It will stay. Relax.

Meydan South sounds like how it should have been built in the first place without rushing and going on the ridiculous cheap with Meydan heights. I think Meydan South will be reasonable in 3 years, much like Silicon Cedar. Would I want to live next to 2000 other colleagues is a different question.
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 12:41
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Salts,
Remember a few years back they stopped the allowance for those that wanted to opt out. You had to provide documentation in order to maintain your allowence if your were under a lease or mortgage. Never made an announcement to that and then rescinded it a year or so later without an announcement. So don't hold your breath thinking it won't change. It has in the past and very likely could in the future.
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 14:21
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Have they started to build the "new" Meydan compound yet? Is it really going to be different than our current one?
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 17:18
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That was during the "crisis" maybe? If you have a lease agreement and or a mortgage to pay - you're entitled to the full allowance. I don't see that as an issue.
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 17:41
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Issue? Let's see. New joiners maybe..no allowance. Lease expires..back in EK housing. Have a mortgage based on today's allowance. ..maybe reduced. Perhaps documentation on exactly what one's payments are; no extra coin for you. Just some thoughts reflecting how things have changed in the past. So possibly might be an issue or two.
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Old 2nd Feb 2015, 17:54
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The accommodation allowance isn't part of our contract so they can change it whenever they like. For a lot of people being forced into company housing would be a deal breaker- it certainly would have stopped me accepting the offer so it would have a detrimental effect on recruitment- probably retention as well.

Also, if 25,000 pilots and cabin crew could no longer get mortgages it would have a detrimental effect on the Dubai housing market.

For those two reasons I can't see it disappearing anytime soon.
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 12:36
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One of my good training captains on the 330 is moving to the 380. All the locals are being given the T7's and little buses.
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 18:51
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Not sure how that's related to housing but as you mentioned the different fleets.....

All remaining command courses with T7 transfers now cancelled. Less than half of the expected 70 now going to the A380 due to supply and demand on the triple. Around 30, or just under, have transferred which leaves 40 short. Should make for an interesting year as the pain is now going to be shared.

April may also bring some less than favourable news for the 'super' pilots in the shape of a less than desirable destination.

.....now, back to the thread!

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Old 5th Feb 2015, 19:08
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Harry the Cod, with regards to your statement that the courses have been cancelled. Is this rumour or fact. And if fact has this occurred after leave has been allocated. I ask, as from a rather selfish point of view I am wondering whether this may open up more leave on the 777.
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Old 5th Feb 2015, 19:58
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It's 100% fact. As for your leave, that's something you'll have to take up with the relevant dept. Good luck with that!

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Old 5th Feb 2015, 23:49
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All remaining command courses with T7 transfers now cancelled. Less than half of the expected 70 now going to the A380 due to supply and demand on the triple.
I wonder if the ex AF 77F airframes have anything to do with it. I heard the two currently in service plus the three on order are coming our way.
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Old 6th Feb 2015, 03:38
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Excuse the potential daft question, put it down to late night arrival and an early jet lagged wake up but are we talking about command courses for 777 Captains transferring to the A380 or 777 F/Os upgrading to Captain?
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Old 6th Feb 2015, 05:45
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With some 777 skippers not coming to the A380, Super FO's get ready for a lowering of hours for command requirement on the A380, I would say sooner than you might want.......GET READING AND READY!!

Let's stop the thread creep with this line of chat......

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