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EK crewing levels coming home to roost?

Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:01
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Covey--if you are interested --ALWAYS walk to the pointy end at the end of a flight. I'm always surprised by how few ask for a visit these day, kids especially.

As for crews causing pax issues-- I would say that is extremely rare. Usually if someone is sick (or calling in sick) they give good notice. The issue becomes if there are so many sick that they can't cover flights and that is a management/company issue not an individual issue.

I also find, at EK in general, the pilots are highly professional and as frustrated as they are with the company they don't take it out on the pax or other crew (always exceptions of course).

The thread started with a comment about grounded aircraft due to lack of crew. If that happens, it is company issue and not one that can be solved by pilots. With the amount we are flying today there is no room left to 'help' out. If there was, I'd say the vast majority WON'T help - they have been beaten to death.
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:01
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Covey,
We would love to give you a guided tour, but not allowed. We would love to take a picture with you and the family at the gate in the cockpit after the flight, not allowed. We would love to stand at the door and thank our customers, but too much paperwork, logbooks, voyage reports, cabin crew logs to sign, etc. So when you don't see the cockpit crew, it's not that we are not appreciative, there's just too much to do afterwards, and I doubt you want to wait around for us to finish our work and have a chat.
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:06
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Trader, Very well put, I now have a different perspective.

Good luck & Stay Safe!
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:06
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@coveyducks

Would love to give you a guided tour this end, but I'm fatigued and will be catching up on loss of sleep.

Regards to your wife, listen to her advice, it is wise.

G'day and G'night...
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:12
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TU,

When I last saw the Captain saying goodbye I was getting off a Stratocruiser!

You might have to Google what they were but an early A380 with 2 decks! Nothing is new!

I know you can't do it these days and that times have changed.

In any case if it had been a less than perfect landing he (sorry it always was him then) spent his time saying that the other pilot had been at the controls!

Good Luck One & All!
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:21
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Convey,

I would have just liked the contract that I signed, and agreed to work under, be honoured. Nothing more, nothing less.

Even though it has not, I have always put my passengers first.

It is however, time to put my family and myself first. That's why I'm going home.

But be assured, right up to my last flight, I will always place my passengers first.
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:38
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I would have just liked the contract that I signed, and agreed to work under, be honoured. Nothing more, nothing less.
Contracts in the ME have always been subject to "company policy".
If EK gave you a 10% payrise, would you say: No thanks, that is not in my contract?
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 17:47
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And as I posted this, I see that there now is a ad on PPRuNe inviting people to apply for first officer jobs with EK.

I thought we had hundreds of applications.

Now it gets more interesting...when you click on the link, it refers to the fleet status for 2012. So someone, in a hurried desperation, has put up an ad from 3 years ago.

Last edited by SOPS; 15th Jan 2015 at 19:20. Reason: New info
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Old 15th Jan 2015, 18:25
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Seniority list


I can see how many times somebody use as resource SENIORITY LIST ..... me as well, only 1 real source of true information (hope) ....



but, how long does it take to stop us to be allowed see this information .... it is not business sensitive???



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Old 15th Jan 2015, 20:03
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Over 350 resigned since April last year!! Checked the last list I had to today's!!

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Old 16th Jan 2015, 05:04
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Mana--that is absolutely IDIOTIC!!!!!! A contract can always be amended when AGREED upon by both sides.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 06:42
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I did not even bother replying to him, Trader.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 10:18
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To help out some of the less informed posters that are quoting class action, be aware that type of action is illegal and I really wouldn't go there.

UAE LABOR LAW

The Law covers all aspects of the employer-employee relationship (Chapter 12), including matters related to employment contracts, restrictions on the employment of juveniles and women, maintenance of records and files, wages, working hours, leave, safety and protection of employees, medical and social care, codes of discipline, termination of employment contracts, end of service benefits, compensation for occupational diseases, labour inspections, penalties and employment related accidents, injuries and death.

The UAE does not allow the formation of trade unions.
It makes an interesting read and offers protection in both directions to some degree.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 11:27
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Just out of curiosity (looking at the advertisement banner here on PPRuNe), is there any new program in place for fast command if you join now ?
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 11:43
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The answer is no, Bringback. And talk to the guys who came here on the promise of a fast track command, only to see the offer withdrawn once the got here.

Besides that, there are many, many highly qualified FOs awaiting their turn for upgrade. I have not done any actual sums, but the current thinking seems to be, if you join now an upgrade will take at least 7 years.

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Old 16th Jan 2015, 12:56
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brokenenglish

Love the video! Gave me a good laugh!
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 15:39
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The lead singer is giving me an idea for a new Trainers' uniform.
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Old 16th Jan 2015, 15:57
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lol

http://youtu.be/iWOyfLBYtuU
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Old 17th Jan 2015, 03:42
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Devil Familiar

I think I have flown with the guy in the biker hat.

EK Management Pilot.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 02:39
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Originally Posted by VLS with ice View Post
Expect phone calls from scheduling on days off....hope you give them the correct answer!
Don't answer the phone. Period
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