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Old 10th Jun 2018, 15:51
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Originally Posted by NightVMC View Post
enough is enough, about to resign.
1) will they keep a specific amount from your last salary or the complete last salary?
2) how do they calculate school fees for your kids if you leave end of the year?
3) has anyone transferred the final settlement to swissquote via al rostamani? if yes, should i register my swissqoute account with al rosatamani before i start the visa cancellation process?
4) how does it work with accommondation? will they come to your location and check together with you your house and will they tell you what you can expct to pay?

thanks for quick update




Re number 2. Unless it has changed ( may have), each kid each year has an invoice . EK takes a set amount off per month off your paycheck- used to be 1000 but more now I believe. The school year is considered Sept 1 to Aug 31. Depending on how much over the allowance your school fees are (if they are at all,) determines how much you owe. So say the allowance is 72500 and your school fee is 85,500 then you owe 13 k per kid per year. So for eg your 2kids started in 2015- then (in the past) would have 1000/month *2 kids = 2000 dhs deducted per month off your pay check, for 13 months. Then 2016 the next two invoices start running (so some months you will be having 4000 dhs deducted) , 2017 the same,2018 etc...
So in summer 2018 you will have 2015 and 2016 no longer being deducted, but will have 4 invoices (for 2017 and 2018) still running down. Once you resign, you will owe the remaining amount on those 4 invoices. As well , even though the school year is Sept- end of June, they consider the whole year, so if you leave on July 1, you will owe 2 months worth of the 72,500 back to the company. You can look on HR direct under the education section to see what your invoices are sitting at.
However , If your school fees fall within the allowance, then the only thing you need to worry about is the issue of owing 2 months of school fees back to the company if your Last date of service is not Aug 31. Unnecessarily complicated but who is surprised !
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 07:01
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It says on the website that leave encashment only is available from 3 years of service. If you leave before the 3 years what will happen with that leave? Can you still encash it or will it dissapear
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 12:16
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You've answered your own question. If it's only available to encash after 3 years and you leave less than 3 years then no you can't encash it. Like any other employee it's likely a case of use it or lose it. Never mind you can never get it when you want it, it will still be your fault for not using all your leave...
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Old 19th Jun 2018, 19:31
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Originally Posted by givemewings View Post
You've answered your own question. If it's only available to encash after 3 years and you leave less than 3 years then no you can't encash it. Like any other employee it's likely a case of use it or lose it. Never mind you can never get it when you want it, it will still be your fault for not using all your leave...
I got an email from the company that we will get it cashed as this time only applies for when you stay with the company. If you leave it is your right ( 30 days by UAE law ) and thus it will be paid out. Not sure where you got your info but I guess you were assuming. Thanks anyway!
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 08:25
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It's a thread about resignation, so you're actually asking about cashing in leave while still employed/not planning to resign? That's a different question.

And you'll find while labour law says one thing, they will try invoke the "it doesn't apply because we are in a free zone" argument. There are several other provisions required by UAE labour law they don't follow and this is the reason they give
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 08:38
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Originally Posted by givemewings View Post
It's a thread about resignation, so you're actually asking about cashing in leave while still employed/not planning to resign? That's a different question.

And you'll find while labour law says one thing, they will try invoke the "it doesn't apply because we are in a free zone" argument. There are several other provisions required by UAE labour law they don't follow and this is the reason they give
Mate? Have you seen the question I asked? "If you leave before the 3 years mark"? So yes I am in the middle of leaving/resigning. Anyway cheers for your time
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 09:11
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Airdancer, Wings is ex cabin crew. Hope your leaving goes smoothly.
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Old 20th Jun 2018, 16:42
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Mate? Have you seen the question I asked? "If you leave before the 3 years mark"?
'Mate'. You literally said, that your information source states that encashment is ONLY available after 3 years' service. When I suggested that this answered your question (can you encash it if leaving before 3 years?) you said it did not, I then wondered if this didn't adequately answer your question if you were not in fact asking about cashing in leave in general. Sorry if I couldn't grasp what you were actually asking from contradictory posts.

And if they sent you an email stating they will pay it, why did you ask if it will be paid out? Or was your intended question: 'Will they ACTUALLY pay it out as the email says?' (knowing full well that often they say one thing and do another)

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Best of luck with the bailout. They love to make things hard, but the EOS people are actually super helpful. Every question I asked they told me the correct info. It's the other departments you have to worry about, some will follow what EOS says, others won't and you'll need to circle back to them to get the right response from whoever it is that's stalling you. Accommodation will be the 'fun' one, if you're unlucky enough to have to deal with them
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Old 28th Jun 2018, 12:16
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Hi airdancer I send you a PM
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 09:01
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Relocation company

hello gents,

I finally sent my resignation letter!!!!!!
Such a great feeling!!!!!
I know it has been discussed already but please can somebody suggest me a shipping company to ship the container back to Europe?
How much is the allowance havibg spent 14 years in the sandpit??

Thanks in advance

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Old 10th Jul 2018, 11:15
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hello gents,

I finally sent my resignation letter!!!!!!
Such a great feeling!!!!!
I know it has been discussed already but please can somebody suggest me a shipping company to ship the container back to Europe?
How much is the allowance havibg spent 14 years in the sandpit??

Thanks in advance

Flare
Congratulations Flare!

The amount that the company pays varies depending on which country you are moving back to, it is also based on the country you joined from. The figures are in the employee manual and easy enough to find.

I have been gone for just under 2 weeks and its only been just in the past few days where I have found my sleeping patterns begin to return to normal. I get to bed at 2200 and wake up at 0600 and sleep the whole time. I left EK with no job to go to which is not a typical move for pilots but its been well worth it. EK had sucked every last bit of enjoyment out of flying that working in a factory would be a step up.

The last 90 days can test your patience but trust me...its worth it.
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 13:03
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Thanks for the info Outlaw. I will dig myself into that manual.........
I am moving to an other job but I am happy to continue to work.
About patience honestly i don't care very much, if they stress me i will get sick for a few weeks
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 17:44
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I know it has been discussed already but please can somebody suggest me a shipping company to ship the container back to Europe?
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 06:46
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Thank you very much Sun!!!
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 07:06
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Great thread with awesome info. I’m about 6 months out and getting my ducks in a row ...

Any advice from someone whom may have left and are renting out property they own. I intend to keep my villa and rent it out after I leave.

How do you go about getting a clearance letter from the bank if you have a “salary letter” as in this case and is this possible ?

Also - what about a personal loan.

Many thanks in advance and apologies if I missed an answer in an earlier reply.
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 13:40
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I just resigned as well I also have a villa I am renting. As long as you have the money in your bank account to cover your monthly mortgage there is no problem.

I hope that helps!
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Old 12th Jul 2018, 16:57
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@ Attaboy - Okay so as long as you have the equivalent of one month mortgage down payment they will release a clearance letter? Or do they require several months worth?

Appreciate the reply!
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 05:54
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If you go to HR Direct check on your pay do you have a grantee letter or transfer letter if you have a transfer Letter you don’t need a clearance letter!
When you take your provident fund chose option 3 as i recall. The option where you get your money cash from emirates you don’t want them to transfer your money to your bank. They will take towards the loan. I have both a mortgage and a personal loan that I am paying and no longer working for EK.
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 07:49
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I am thinking ahead here. Profit share is announced in May. If your last day is the 31st of May. Are you still entitled to receive the profit share?
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Old 18th Jul 2018, 11:13
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I am thinking ahead here. Profit share is announced in May. If your last day is the 31st of May. Are you still entitled to receive the profit share?

Hello Joker,

I just went through the whole exit process. The profit share has traditionally been paid May 26, as long as you are on the payroll on that day then you get the profit share, its all in the employee manual. I extended my resignation to June 28 --just incase-- they delayed the payment for one one the many excuses they use for delayed rosters..IE: moon shift, Elvis sightings, alien encounter, PMS, faulty carbon pressure, blown vacuum tube (valve) in CRS, Russian interference.

I wish you the best in your choice. It has been the best choice I have made for our family.

Cheers...Outlaw
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