EK Pay review
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 25
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From: Dubai
Oh bravo Pprune, placing an advert for emirates recruitment at the bottom of this particular post, fantastic sense of humour!
Can someone please answer me this-
Alan - why are we consistently having pay reviews that are leaving us with less disposable income each year? What have we done to deserve this while the company makes huge profits year upon year?
Tim - you told us we would be looked after financially, you lied to us. What did we do to deserve this?
Do management at Emirates appreciate the correlation between employee morale/motivation and customer service? No wonder more and more passengers are complaining about the decline in service, you're treating the front line with no respect.
Personally, I have no children in school, I live in company accommodation and I understand the 3% step is contractual. I have therefore been given a 7aed an hour payrise- which is not backdated as previously implied.
Please explain your reasonings to us, at least show us that basic level of respect.
Harry
Can someone please answer me this-
Alan - why are we consistently having pay reviews that are leaving us with less disposable income each year? What have we done to deserve this while the company makes huge profits year upon year?
Tim - you told us we would be looked after financially, you lied to us. What did we do to deserve this?
Do management at Emirates appreciate the correlation between employee morale/motivation and customer service? No wonder more and more passengers are complaining about the decline in service, you're treating the front line with no respect.
Personally, I have no children in school, I live in company accommodation and I understand the 3% step is contractual. I have therefore been given a 7aed an hour payrise- which is not backdated as previously implied.
Please explain your reasonings to us, at least show us that basic level of respect.
Harry
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 25
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From: Ze Pit.
Croc Dundee, not having a go, but you forget to mention one thing.....
The Guys and Gals in Oz have something we could never dream of: Protection.
They may face demotion, or even worse the arse, but QF will have to pay them for it, so at worst they will get a nice redundancy payment, on top of their Superannuation, they'll get paid for leave and sick leave that they haven't used, (yes, it accrues!!!), and they will get to remain in a country where they are not left hung out to dry, medically, with schooling etc etc etc etc etc, and etc! They have "Contracts" that their Employer must abide to also. Imagine.
If I got a call tomorrow from my previous employer to go fly the Maggot around the sunburned country as an F/O, I'm pretty sure I'd be packing my bags, and would have to run to keep up with the missus to hail a cab to the Airport!!
Unfortunately, in this industry, that won't happen, as once you leave a "good" Airline, it's rare that they will have you back. Don't forget seniority also. We made a sacrifice to come here. Somehow it seems that instead of some reward for it, we are getting punished more and more.
The Guys and Gals in Oz have something we could never dream of: Protection.
They may face demotion, or even worse the arse, but QF will have to pay them for it, so at worst they will get a nice redundancy payment, on top of their Superannuation, they'll get paid for leave and sick leave that they haven't used, (yes, it accrues!!!), and they will get to remain in a country where they are not left hung out to dry, medically, with schooling etc etc etc etc etc, and etc! They have "Contracts" that their Employer must abide to also. Imagine.
If I got a call tomorrow from my previous employer to go fly the Maggot around the sunburned country as an F/O, I'm pretty sure I'd be packing my bags, and would have to run to keep up with the missus to hail a cab to the Airport!!
Unfortunately, in this industry, that won't happen, as once you leave a "good" Airline, it's rare that they will have you back. Don't forget seniority also. We made a sacrifice to come here. Somehow it seems that instead of some reward for it, we are getting punished more and more.
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 26
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From: Wrong side of the pond.
Tight pants.
I think u mean congratulations on a couple extra days off this month, and thank u...don't mind if I do. We all get a go being the safety valve on reserve. C'est la vie!
I'll enjoy my evening. Just to be safe I'll be sure not to eat any FRIES...mate.
I think u mean congratulations on a couple extra days off this month, and thank u...don't mind if I do. We all get a go being the safety valve on reserve. C'est la vie!
I'll enjoy my evening. Just to be safe I'll be sure not to eat any FRIES...mate.
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 25
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From: Dubai
Pressing 2, the most selfish thing you can do. You're not screwing the company over, you screwing your colleague over. Why would Emirates care? They just call someone off standby.
What goes around comes around.
What goes around comes around.
Joined: Jun 2014
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From: Somewhere hot
Unbelievable stuff from TCAS. Living up to his name. Inflation in Dubai according to Bloomberg is 3%. So the contractual rise covers that. That's TC's statement covered about us being protected. Still nowhere near enough though. A 5dhs rise for FO's is nowt short of insulting. I feel for the guys who just joined, getting shackled into what probably looks good on paper, but after a few years starts to stink like the metro in August. I can see a fair few resignations in the next few weeks and months.
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 25
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From: Dubai
Well then Whairdhugo, whilst you sat down to watch the football the point appears to have flown over your head.
You've informed us that you've gone sick out of a (misguided) protest against Emirates management. Do you realise that these managers won't even know you've taken this action? They genuinely couldn't care less.
As mentioned above, all you've really achieved is demonstrating to us that you lack professionalism and respect. Funny that, you expect respect from your employees but then show none to your colleagues.
You should hope that the pilot who was called off standby was Portuguese and you've saved him from watching that game.
The rest of us should hope that you change your attitude and this 'press 2' mentality can stop spreading.
Harry
Ps. Fart master please explain how this could possibly 'help pressure be brought to bear'? Especially at a time when there's countless pilots on standby, especially First Officers.
You've informed us that you've gone sick out of a (misguided) protest against Emirates management. Do you realise that these managers won't even know you've taken this action? They genuinely couldn't care less.
As mentioned above, all you've really achieved is demonstrating to us that you lack professionalism and respect. Funny that, you expect respect from your employees but then show none to your colleagues.
You should hope that the pilot who was called off standby was Portuguese and you've saved him from watching that game.
The rest of us should hope that you change your attitude and this 'press 2' mentality can stop spreading.
Harry
Ps. Fart master please explain how this could possibly 'help pressure be brought to bear'? Especially at a time when there's countless pilots on standby, especially First Officers.
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 6
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From: 777 flight deck
No solution but to vote with your feet
There is no way out guys apart from leaving.
This is a very very clear sign of what "they" think of us.
This was the last year they had to show us that we are worth something and they had this one chance to put the pay up to show the world they were the best airline e to work for and instead have let everyone know what clear message is to be sent.
The good days of EK are well over.
The ship is sinking.
This is a very very clear sign of what "they" think of us.
This was the last year they had to show us that we are worth something and they had this one chance to put the pay up to show the world they were the best airline e to work for and instead have let everyone know what clear message is to be sent.
The good days of EK are well over.
The ship is sinking.
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 416
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From: uk
The fact that those upstairs took a month to wind us up for a firm kick in the teeth is staggering.
The word is well and truly out to "newbies" thinking about coming to the pit.
Mrs Alwayz has had enough, so in line with the adage "happy wife, happy life" we are not going to sit any longer, but to make a measured judgment and then stick with whatever conclusion we come up with.
Frankly I am staggered by the slap in the face. As for the new briefcase, well it good to see that senior management have a firm grasp of the important aspects of man management.
Lala land.......................
The word is well and truly out to "newbies" thinking about coming to the pit.
Mrs Alwayz has had enough, so in line with the adage "happy wife, happy life" we are not going to sit any longer, but to make a measured judgment and then stick with whatever conclusion we come up with.
Frankly I am staggered by the slap in the face. As for the new briefcase, well it good to see that senior management have a firm grasp of the important aspects of man management.
Lala land.......................
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 85
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From: UAE
Couldn't agree more with Widebdy's post but press 2 or not, it won't make an iota of difference.
Only a paradigm shift in recruitment or resignations will change anything and it will be those after us that will benefit from any changes.
In other words, tactically or strategically, there is nothing you can do to enhance your career here. Stronger adjectives would be censored.
Plenty of other options out there and it will depend on your circumstances, but there has never been a truer time to roll out the old adage, "if you don't like it....you can leave".
Before anyone rants off, I have taken my own advice.
Only a paradigm shift in recruitment or resignations will change anything and it will be those after us that will benefit from any changes.
In other words, tactically or strategically, there is nothing you can do to enhance your career here. Stronger adjectives would be censored.
Plenty of other options out there and it will depend on your circumstances, but there has never been a truer time to roll out the old adage, "if you don't like it....you can leave".
Before anyone rants off, I have taken my own advice.