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If 3 weeks is confirmed it is a fraction below what I expected and a great deal below what I think is necessary to stop pilots leaving.
So, the pay rise then becomes the deal breaker. If EK don't award something substantial I will be dusting off the back pages of Flight again.
So, the pay rise then becomes the deal breaker. If EK don't award something substantial I will be dusting off the back pages of Flight again.
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Is 3 weeks enough to satisfy the SCs?
Everyone was expecting more but throwing us a tiny nugget might just stop the outward flow.
Pay raise should be more than we think. They have to do something.
Everyone was expecting more but throwing us a tiny nugget might just stop the outward flow.
Pay raise should be more than we think. They have to do something.
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Perfectly put Bananas. If the pay isn't increased to match that being offered elsewhere (in countries that aren't so expensive to live in) then I will be joining the ever increasing amount of my colleagues who are looking to leave.
It's no surprise whatsoever that the roadshows are attracting record low numbers of pilots and not many folk want to join.
Harry
It's no surprise whatsoever that the roadshows are attracting record low numbers of pilots and not many folk want to join.
Harry
Pay review was emailed on the 15th May last year.
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Is the 3 weeks report coming from people that actually went to EGHQ? I haven't received an email. Will be interesting to hear the reasoning behind a bonus when we (allegedly) didn't make the stated target.
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The figures are staggering. The increase in profit alone is incredible.
If you fail to look after your staff when the times are good, you cannot expect them to look after you when the times are bad.
If you fail to look after your staff when the times are good, you cannot expect them to look after you when the times are bad.
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FFS stop whining! For all of the last financial year I've flown and spoke with nobody that expected profit share this year. Nobody. Now the Company announces 3 weeks and people start whining and complaining that it's an insult and will hardly attract new joiners.
Guys, take it for what it is, a 3 week extra pay packet to pay off some cards, buy a new sofa or spend a bloody good week away with the family. The days of 12-14 weeks profit share are well gone. What we need is a decent pay rise of at least 3% in addition to the 3% increment. The latter should never be considered part of a pay rise, just ask those sat at the top of the salary scales and ask them how half a % has worked for the last 3 years! What we need are lifestyle changes. Reduce the hours. Give genuine credit for non payable duties such as CRM, SEP and Simulator during roster builds to avoid 100 hour plus months. Have enough pilots to allow 42 days leave, stop fudging FTL's to allow 3 crew ULR's and expect 22 hour duties, stop asking us to brief cabin crew 83 minutes before our official report time. Start providing enough doctors and dentists, decent housing and decent housing allowance and education allowance to reflect an expanding Company and an expensive City. The every day stuff is what's important.
People don't just vote with their feet, they vote with their attitude at work. They stop caring. 3 weeks is 3 weeks more than I expected. I'll take it as a thank you for my hard work and nothing more. Next month will be the time to really consider whinging or not!
Harry
Guys, take it for what it is, a 3 week extra pay packet to pay off some cards, buy a new sofa or spend a bloody good week away with the family. The days of 12-14 weeks profit share are well gone. What we need is a decent pay rise of at least 3% in addition to the 3% increment. The latter should never be considered part of a pay rise, just ask those sat at the top of the salary scales and ask them how half a % has worked for the last 3 years! What we need are lifestyle changes. Reduce the hours. Give genuine credit for non payable duties such as CRM, SEP and Simulator during roster builds to avoid 100 hour plus months. Have enough pilots to allow 42 days leave, stop fudging FTL's to allow 3 crew ULR's and expect 22 hour duties, stop asking us to brief cabin crew 83 minutes before our official report time. Start providing enough doctors and dentists, decent housing and decent housing allowance and education allowance to reflect an expanding Company and an expensive City. The every day stuff is what's important.
People don't just vote with their feet, they vote with their attitude at work. They stop caring. 3 weeks is 3 weeks more than I expected. I'll take it as a thank you for my hard work and nothing more. Next month will be the time to really consider whinging or not!
Harry
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complete joke...3 weeks ha!! It'd be funny if it wasn't such a load of 
Yup the old CV has been dusted off and e-mails sent out.....grass just got an awful lot greener.
And yes its a joke the excitement of the
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Yup the old CV has been dusted off and e-mails sent out.....grass just got an awful lot greener.And yes its a joke the excitement of the
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The Profit Share runs to about 2% of the total profit in my quick calculations. Did they take the owners dividend after announcing the profit or was that deducted beforehand to control the pay out?
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I agree with you so far Harry the Cod but the acid test will be on the long list of other factors you so eloquently detailed - beginning, of course, with the pay rise. If EK properly address all of those issues, and quickly, then happy days. But some issues they cant address and some they just don't seem to want to.
Let's wait and see. As the Americans say at the big game 'The ball is in the air'
Let's wait and see. As the Americans say at the big game 'The ball is in the air'
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Why so many pilots defending the company? Stockholm Syndrome has definitely taken EK pilots.
You weren't expecting anything? Why the hell not? You deserve it and earned it! It is only because of the theft of our Bonus the last 3 years that you have the attitude you do. Wake up!
You weren't expecting anything? Why the hell not? You deserve it and earned it! It is only because of the theft of our Bonus the last 3 years that you have the attitude you do. Wake up!