EK: Going the extra mile
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,098
Likes: 1
From: earth
What goes around, comes around.
The company had a real chance last year to prepare our willingness to go the extra mile. They thought they'd get away with bugger nothing again.
That might prove wrong this time. Isn't it ironical that this person expects us to go the extra mile, while it was him that cut short the possible amount of days off in a row?
We will respect the contract and the OMA, i am sure, but i think it will be difficult to tune our heads into more than that, having repeatedly experienced only the contractual minimum from them, sometimes even less .......
What goes around, comes around.
The company had a real chance last year to prepare our willingness to go the extra mile. They thought they'd get away with bugger nothing again.
That might prove wrong this time. Isn't it ironical that this person expects us to go the extra mile, while it was him that cut short the possible amount of days off in a row?
We will respect the contract and the OMA, i am sure, but i think it will be difficult to tune our heads into more than that, having repeatedly experienced only the contractual minimum from them, sometimes even less .......
What goes around, comes around.
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
From: LaLaLand
They won't be getting any extra miles from me.
Why make any effort for them when they simply don't/ won't for us
' You reap what you sow ' EK and you've fed from the trough for free for far too long.
Look out,here comes chaos!!!!
Why make any effort for them when they simply don't/ won't for us
' You reap what you sow ' EK and you've fed from the trough for free for far too long.
Look out,here comes chaos!!!!
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
From: 'Merica
I'm curious what he means by "extra mile." Some of us are already scheduled to the extent of legality. All the miles we are allowed to go have already been allocated, so I don't see any extra that I can or would volunteer.
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
From: West Coast
I find it quite ironic that the runway shutdown will be right around the time we're all due for a pay review. Could be some interesting times ahead.
That part about going the extra mile... yea, good one.
As the old saying goes over on this side of the globe, "money talks".
That part about going the extra mile... yea, good one.
As the old saying goes over on this side of the globe, "money talks".
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 114
Likes: 0
From: Q5
No such thing as ..
There is no such thing as an extra mile, not even an inch in my vocabulary.
I wrote something similar some time ago, coz this leads to something else what's unacceptable. My rigid stance serves the future (professionally as well as individually (this is an individual loss scenario if left alone)).
I wrote something similar some time ago, coz this leads to something else what's unacceptable. My rigid stance serves the future (professionally as well as individually (this is an individual loss scenario if left alone)).
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 683
Likes: 0
From: Earth
The definition of "going the extra mile"
Does anyone see the irony here? or perhaps this explains things a bit more succinctly.
Just worth pondering.
English definition of go the extra mile
go the extra mile
to make more effort than is expected of you:
He's a nice guy, always ready to go the extra mile for his friends.
go the extra mile
to make more effort than is expected of you:
He's a nice guy, always ready to go the extra mile for his friends.
Just worth pondering.
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,098
Likes: 1
From: earth
What do you think of the latest pep-talk from Big Al?
Didn't find the mail?
It's not from TCAS, for once, it came from the engineer, right from the top. You know, the guy who's posts you delete instantly. So go to the trash files and look for a mail of the big pilot hater.
Didn't find the mail?
It's not from TCAS, for once, it came from the engineer, right from the top. You know, the guy who's posts you delete instantly. So go to the trash files and look for a mail of the big pilot hater.
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 548
Likes: 0
From: nowhere
It is really interesting to read what few coleagues think about going the extramile......
Most uf us are fed up, most of us are willing to show how disappointed they are with the managament but then......when the time comes and we really have the chance to show our feelings........ Everything changes........
How many of us really said no to discretion or no to a call during a day off?
It is not my intention to criticize our category but honestly i lost my faith in it.....
Nothing will change......... And they know it.......
Most uf us are fed up, most of us are willing to show how disappointed they are with the managament but then......when the time comes and we really have the chance to show our feelings........ Everything changes........
How many of us really said no to discretion or no to a call during a day off?
It is not my intention to criticize our category but honestly i lost my faith in it.....
Nothing will change......... And they know it.......
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,098
Likes: 1
From: earth
Flareflyer
You might be right and it is understandable.
This time however it is different. You have a chance to shape the future.
With the upcoming situation they expect us to go the extra mile, in other words to take shortcuts, to make flight preps shorter, to apply thrust 20" earlier behind a whale, to go into discretion already at the beginning of the trip etc.
Make life safer by not doing so, because with the slightest little hick-up they'll be all over you like a pack of hyenas. No thanks there.
Make your future better by applying the exact rules they bullied into us repeatedly, because any slack we might give during this summer will simply be regarded as the normal minimum in the future!
For once the workforce is regarded as "minimally needed", otherwise the big manitou would not have adressed us directly. Let's show them how well we know the books thrown at us eternally, but if there is any kind of recognition with the PS or new T&Cs, then let's show them thereafter what they were missing before.
Safe flights and think about our all future
You might be right and it is understandable.
This time however it is different. You have a chance to shape the future.
With the upcoming situation they expect us to go the extra mile, in other words to take shortcuts, to make flight preps shorter, to apply thrust 20" earlier behind a whale, to go into discretion already at the beginning of the trip etc.
Make life safer by not doing so, because with the slightest little hick-up they'll be all over you like a pack of hyenas. No thanks there.
Make your future better by applying the exact rules they bullied into us repeatedly, because any slack we might give during this summer will simply be regarded as the normal minimum in the future!
For once the workforce is regarded as "minimally needed", otherwise the big manitou would not have adressed us directly. Let's show them how well we know the books thrown at us eternally, but if there is any kind of recognition with the PS or new T&Cs, then let's show them thereafter what they were missing before.
Safe flights and think about our all future
Joined: Jan 2007
Aviation Qualifications: SLF
Posts: 415
Likes: 1
From: Chichester, UK
Not seen the email as nobody apparently saw fit for me to read it.....perhaps going that extra mile is seen as a waste of time in my case?! I just go to work, get on with it, try to have a good time and be as professional as I can without bending over backwards and exposing myself....1st wave.....2nd wave....runway closures.....dont even give them a thought any more. The company sees to it that we are in no uncertain terms as to just how much we are valued and now is the time, as a result, to show them that, had morale been looked after, they would have got a damn sight more out of us. Ye reap what ye sow.....if they couldnt see this one coming then good luck to them as it goes off the rails....smile and wave, boys, smile and wave!
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,780
Likes: 0
From: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
You EK pilots are all so ungrateful...why they even invite you into their nice shiny office bldg for some free tea n bikkies when you report sick with a certified sick note...we were never fortunate enough to have that a my airline
Joined: Aug 1998
Posts: 773
Likes: 1
From: the ridge where the west commences
There was some talk of that mob offering rotational rosters (30 on/30 off). If they did I would be down there this afternoon, ready to go with a UAE GCA licence, type endorsement, medical and current PPC. That should be convenient for everyone.