Ek Sick leave
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Ek Sick leave
It appears guys are getting called in to talk about their sick leave again. I wonder why when you cannot swap any flights nowadays because of the tight rosters and the new rule, no overtime.
A mate got called in as he's had more than 9 days and its all been certified by Ek doctors they don't care. Got told you haven't done your 900 hours for the year and we have the right to terminate you if you don't fulfill your contract.
As well you can buy cold and flu tablets and antibiotics from the Chemist you don't need to go to the Doctor.
The place has gone mad we must be short of crew and they now the troops spirit has waned they are trying to scare you to work.
A mate got called in as he's had more than 9 days and its all been certified by Ek doctors they don't care. Got told you haven't done your 900 hours for the year and we have the right to terminate you if you don't fulfill your contract.
As well you can buy cold and flu tablets and antibiotics from the Chemist you don't need to go to the Doctor.
The place has gone mad we must be short of crew and they now the troops spirit has waned they are trying to scare you to work.
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Regardless, it's your responsibility and obligation to call sick if you are not fit to fly for any reason. They haven't fired anyone for sick calls and they would be dumber than they already seem to do so.
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Well, it also says I should have 42 days leave each year with a minimum of 30. That hasn't been fulfilled. Anyway, for them to terminate you successfully they would need to apply the 900 hours across the board. In other words, to avoid opening themselves up to discrimination, all pilots would have to do 900 hours. Access to the records of those more 'local' passports would reveal a clear disconnect from others so I wouldn't even worry. 
A quick look at my hours for the last 5 years has revealed some interesting results. I actually over complied with my contractual hours bar one year. Based on their reasoning, I'm in credit!
They can do bugger all and they know it. Just go along, drink the tea and eat as many biscuits as you can interspersed with the occasional 'check' or 'yes'. Smile and wave as you leave.
Harry
A quick look at my hours for the last 5 years has revealed some interesting results. I actually over complied with my contractual hours bar one year. Based on their reasoning, I'm in credit!
They can do bugger all and they know it. Just go along, drink the tea and eat as many biscuits as you can interspersed with the occasional 'check' or 'yes'. Smile and wave as you leave.
Harry
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"all pilots would need to do 900 hours.." Mmm...that might be a challenge if you're a super jockey.
"This has been happening to cc for the longest while now.." Yep, that's why you only need to look at the ASR reports each Thursday and see the ever increasing number of CC that go sick on flights and are stood down.
The leaks are getting bigger and there's not much sticky tape left!
"This has been happening to cc for the longest while now.." Yep, that's why you only need to look at the ASR reports each Thursday and see the ever increasing number of CC that go sick on flights and are stood down.
The leaks are getting bigger and there's not much sticky tape left!
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says bugger all about flying 900 hrs in my contract...bottom line, dont fly sick. hazard to your own health and the operations.
they wont give you a najam award for ruining your health...
so smile, say yes yes, enjoy the coffee and dry cookies.
they wont give you a najam award for ruining your health...
so smile, say yes yes, enjoy the coffee and dry cookies.
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Flying whilst sick…….
Having recently had two separate periods of sickness (one leading to lost subsequent duty days and far worse, one leading to lost days off!) I wish to agree with all who suggest not arriving for work when ill.
On both occasions I had been working with colleagues who it turned out were operating whilst sick themselves. This invariably doesn't become apparent until well into the flight. Cooped up in the close confines of our workspace, infectious transmittal is highly likely. I fully understand concerns about reporting sick here, particularly if promotion is deemed at stake, but really there is no option to report for work when not feeling well.
Regardless of the legal requirement not to work whilst sick, think of the logical implications of delaying one's own recovery, reducing the safety of the flight, and infecting your fellow crew mates by doing so. The company's attitude is undoubtedly partially to blame for this, as certain stars of middle management have successfully promulgated the idea that punitive measures will follow for those with sick days that exceed some unknown threshold of acceptability.
The company needs to get a grip on just what they are trying to achieve - how many more lost days of productivity do they want by crew flying sick and causing others to become sick too…..?
On both occasions I had been working with colleagues who it turned out were operating whilst sick themselves. This invariably doesn't become apparent until well into the flight. Cooped up in the close confines of our workspace, infectious transmittal is highly likely. I fully understand concerns about reporting sick here, particularly if promotion is deemed at stake, but really there is no option to report for work when not feeling well.
Regardless of the legal requirement not to work whilst sick, think of the logical implications of delaying one's own recovery, reducing the safety of the flight, and infecting your fellow crew mates by doing so. The company's attitude is undoubtedly partially to blame for this, as certain stars of middle management have successfully promulgated the idea that punitive measures will follow for those with sick days that exceed some unknown threshold of acceptability.
The company needs to get a grip on just what they are trying to achieve - how many more lost days of productivity do they want by crew flying sick and causing others to become sick too…..?
