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Old 30th Jan 2014, 12:56
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Ah yes the irony of the specificity of the email WRT actual lanyard warn, even if it's Emirates branded - as opposed to a broad unchecked sentence of "don't eat or drink in uniform" is not lost on the minions....but who are we.

Anyhow I get it, I know where he's going and would be happy to comply and invest in the 'brand' and the expanded 'wave system' (a la controlled rest now - every half hour on the hour Gents) IF the company would invest in me - by keeping my staff travel where it was and getting more than a 0.5% pay raise in 2 yrs...in light of billions earned...there is a correlation here.

On grooming, I have two pet peeves...the pilots who don't bother to shave (and are obviously not growing a beard - FO 'Beckham' last week having had a 'successful' night - nuff said) and use the 'religious sensitivity' of groomed beard allowed excuse..
.., and dirty shoes ...FFS shine your shoes and have a shave whydontcha..

Rant over.

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Old 30th Jan 2014, 13:15
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Harry, do you perhaps wear a Mickey Mouse watch (like I might) or do you wear one of those big blingy piloty type watches, I.e the sort that shouts of inadequacies in other departments?!... Fwiw, I never wear one and, instead, rely upon the seriously bloody expensive & GPS updated one supplied in the aeroplane and / or my network time sync'd mobile. That said, I suppose, if I worked for EK, I could comply by wearing my iPhone strapped to my wrist and / or wearing a watch (but never bother winding it up)... And therein it might well be suggested that common sense flew out of EK's window some time ago, but if only we knew what time it was?!
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 13:32
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OKC, common sense and EK? whatcha saying there fella? Common sense? sense, thats common? What a revolutionary thought! It'll never catch on you know, they tried that back in 41 at the worlds fair, didn't work then, won't work now.
The trouble with idiots is, they drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Common sense! I can still remember a time when you had to get up to change the TV channel, happy days…Common sense! it'll never catch on you know….
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Old 30th Jan 2014, 13:47
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Was this some kind of email for Captains only? Nothing in my inbox...
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 05:04
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What is funny and somewhat ironic is that there are indeed certain individuals who continue to have difficulty finding a simple pair of black socks, a clean ironed shirt or still insist on wearing the tie clip, non standard belts and other bizarre non standard additions.
BYMONEK, you better check the rules before you start preaching… The tie clips, even though they were not handed out with the new uniform, are still approved as per the uniform manual…
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 05:21
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Originally Posted by MR8
BYMONEK, you better check the rules before you start preaching… The tie clips, even though they were not handed out with the new uniform, are still approved as per the uniform manual…
I beg to differ... A tie pin was not issued as part of the new uniform and as such the old one is not allowed. See "Open house" question from Sep 12th 2013.

We all like to be treated with respect and as professionals, well here´s a tip: Start looking like a pro... I doubt it came as a surprise to anyone that one has to wear a uniform coming to work as an airline pilot. It's called uniform, not "multiform" (Link for the language challanged: uni- - Wiktionary)

That said, do I think sipping a cup of Starbucks coming through ZRH makes us look less professional, of course not. Running through the terminal with the flight bag in one hand doing Vr behind, and a BigMac dripping in the other would though...
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 05:52
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and other bizarre non standard additions.
Would these include various body piercings of sorts that would attract the attention of seedy security scanners around the world?

Do you guys wear clip on ties? Many moons ago BA somewhere along the line issued them because a crew member was attacked on his way to the aircraft by some irrate pax due to the late arriving aircraft. This resulted in him almost choking to death and subsequently the flight was cancelled!
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 06:40
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Yes they are clip-on ties, but not because of concern for our well being, but because a majority of the pilots would not know how to tie a proper knot...
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 07:33
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how are we suppose to "look like pros" when we are provided with low quality uniform? Why is it ok for some pilots to wear co(s)mic watches, Elvis type shades (regardless of wx or time of day), designer belts and custom made shirts? Some are more equal than others I guess...
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 08:43
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So think we need to misappropriate the Military's codes then Uniform Code of Management Justice
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 13:00
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These rules are not unheard of at other carriers as well..
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 13:21
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But the "rule" of having to wear a wrist watch!!! Does EK really have that rule!! Been through a few airlines - one a legacy - and never seen or heard of that.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 15:44
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Little Al is mostly a mouthpiece for his masters.
From what I've read about Al perviously, I think you should replace the word mouthpiece for ring piece and then it's sorted.
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Old 31st Jan 2014, 22:25
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At BA, we HAVE to wear a watch. Both sides of the flight deck door.

It is included in the uniform wearers guide.

Not that they give us one, but we still have to wear one.
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Old 1st Feb 2014, 06:18
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You guys think you have it bad, take a look at what might happen:

British Airways and cabin crew may clash over who wears the trousers | Business | The Guardian

What a thought women wearing the trousers, heaven forfend
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Old 1st Feb 2014, 06:52
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Just put a head to toe burkha in your flight bag.Change into before eating,drinking and change out on the way to your official duties.
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 13:01
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Originally Posted by Harry the Cod
increasing number who don't wear a watch
I have barely worn a watch for the last 30 years mate. Nor did I wear one today for my flight! Must be a bad pilot

But my timing was just fine btw

PS I also wear my national flag on my lapel. And a Poppy in November..........
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 13:16
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I can picture it - an old captain with glorious white beard and whiskers - a monocle and a pocket watch with a gold chain. What would your crowd say about that - but hang on - was there not such captains in days gone by?
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 15:15
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but hang on - was there not such captains in days gone by?
Smith?
Titanic?
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Old 2nd Feb 2014, 17:39
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WK

We all possess enough intelligence to realise what we wear has sweet FA to do with our ability to fly the plane so stop being such a knob.

As a Captain, you set the tone. You are the senior representative of the Company and as such, your behaviour and appearance can and will influence those that fly with you. Flags, poppy in November......what more do you want....a f**king medal? Grow up!

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