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Old 6th Jan 2014, 09:12
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LIPS/EPC

Just got the email saying LIPS salary deduction will no longer be processed by EPC.

Does anyone know the reason for this?

Hopefully LIPS will come up with a straightforward alternative arrangement.
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Old 6th Jan 2014, 09:59
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Well, that's a PIA!
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Old 6th Jan 2014, 10:14
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Remind me of the cost/benefit if you have it at hand. Would a succesful claim now pay through age 65 or does it stop at 60?
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Old 6th Jan 2014, 11:18
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Does someone have the Lips website address to hand ?
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Old 6th Jan 2014, 11:31
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EPC is now trying to poach LIPS members for products offered by them (Athena, APPN, etc...). It was just a matter of time before they go their separate ways. It would be nice if LIPS would come out and clarified the situation. Would also be nice if EPC returns to its roots of being a social club (not another financial service salesman).
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Old 6th Jan 2014, 12:07
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It's lipsek.org. I think google should throw it up.
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Old 6th Jan 2014, 20:50
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The author of that letter needs a lesson in soft skills.

It's our club, please treat the membership accordingly.

f.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 02:20
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Club ?
3500 pilots x 75 AED = 262500 AED per month for 3 bicycles and couple of tennis rackets....
Looks more like a business (which it is) than a social club for pilots in need.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 04:12
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Don't forget FlyDubai can acces EPC along with other pilots in Dubai.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 06:24
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So can half of the population of Dubai. I know people with EPC cards that have literally no connection to the airline other than they know someone that knows someone.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 06:32
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AMEX

If it grieves you so much, leave EPC and feel free to arrange your own discounts in future on 100's of restaurants, bars and cafe's in Dubai as well as negotiating discounts next time you visit Wild wadi and Ski Dubai. The odd discounted cinema ticket should be easy to achieve as well, surely? Not only bikes and rackets but golf clubs too. Most of all, may I wish you luck in accessing several 5 star beach hotels and their gyms along with other offers relating to car hire, tyres, cosmetics, furniture and anything else that the committee donate their own time into.

Best of all, you get to save 75 dirhams and we get to save spending SID's and STARS evenings with ungrateful and ignorant idiots like you!
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 06:47
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Touched a nerve...
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 07:29
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BYMONEK,

Let me guess. Are you the guy who sends out the quarterly scolding/threatening emails from EPC admonishing the membership for being too noisy at the beach clubs or not returning the bicycles in top shape?

Give it a break. If we are going to be completely honest the Emirates Platinum card gives better discounts on virtually everything and offers more locations. I almost exclusively eat out and I cannot remember a restaurant giving a better discount with the EPC card. They always offer a larger discount for the platinum card. The same goes for coffee and drinks. At only 20/aed per month for the company card I am quickly losing faith in the more expensive EPC.

The only 2 reasons I could see to maintain the EPC membership were the convenience of the LIPS deduction and access to beach clubs. So unless you are going to beach clubs on a regular basis I don't see the point of maintaining an EPC membership. It hasn't kept pace with the competition. Sids and Stars..Are they any good?
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 07:46
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Thank you to the guys doing a great job at EPC! For a small fee of AED75/150, it gives us access to 5 star facilities! I think the combination of EPC and Platinum is awesome! Two horses for different courses.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 07:55
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For the record, I think EPC is great value for money, try buying your own gym membership, or renting a bike down route.

Yes they could improve the website massively, simple things like coding the locations/areas correctly on the deals. But all in all, very happy with it.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 09:17
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So EPC is more like a business than a club....? and the distractors use a comparison between Platinum and EPC as to which offers the greater commercial benefit...ie the better business.....wtf? I joined EPC when it was struggling to get the minimum 100 members to kick it off, it was to provide beach club access and toys down route, it still does that thank you EPC. Don't join a club that doesn't suite your needs, simple really.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 11:57
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For the record I have left EPC a while back, never been to SIDs and STARs either so that "idiot" wasn't me (you have me mistaken with another one who was there too ).
And yes EPC is a business, not a charity. Nothing wrong with that, just one I wasn't getting much benefit from anymore as what I used to enjoy had disappeared or reduced to so little -5 AED discount per cinema ticket for example-, it wasn't worth me driving to the Fairmount anymore.
I may be ignorant but my decision was based on ignorantly reviewing what use I had for EPC.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 12:55
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I'm sure a lot of people will jump all over me for this but I wonder if EPC would open up their books to the membership? They probably collect close to half a million dirhams per month. An office in the Fairmont Hotel? That must cost a fortune....

It doesn't seem to me like the deals match the massive amount of dues money. Are they spending 4-6 million dirhams a year on beach access, Sids & Stars parities, and bicycles? Just curious. I guess a few years in dubai has led me to worry about less than sound accounting anywhere you get a big pile of money showing up monthly.
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 13:14
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try a phone....if you are a member then it's your club, talk to the committee. I went to an AGM two years ago, there were 2 members in the audience, 2 out of about 3000! If you want to see change then turn up and influence it, join the committee even. Or of course you can just bag it on PPRuNe I suppose....
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Old 7th Jan 2014, 13:19
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it's a lot easier to just complain via PPRuNe
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