So Now the Pay Review....
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So Now the Pay Review....
Well after the bitter disappointment regarding the profit share we wait to see what the pay review brings.
This potentially has a number of aspects that could improve and lift the real income some small amount to where it used to be. There could be increases from or in the following areas:
Basic Salary Scale goes up
Step Advance
Flying Pay Increase
Productivity Pay Increase
Callout Pay Increase
Accommodation Allowance Increase
Education Allowance Increase
Telephone Allowance Increase
Training Allowance Increase (Training Etc)
Training Callout allowance increase
Transport Allowance Increase (Training)
Am I missing anything? From the sounds of things those in the training fold should probably be hoping they do not get a decrease as there seems to be too many of them!
Clearly if there is no change to the list above then effectively a decrease in Real Wages will then occur due to the effects of inflation. Real Wages being wages adjusted for inflation.
The British economist John Maynard Keynes accurately described inflation as the means by which governments confiscate wealth. If salaries do not keep pace with inflation then an individual must then necessarily reduce consumption.
While inflation in the UAE has been reasonably static at 1.3% per year for the past 2 years since the salary scales were reviewed in May 2011, it is expected to climb towards 2% this year. This means that a minimum of a 3.4% increase on all the various remunerations listed above will ensure that by May 2014 we are maintaining the same real wage received in May 2011.
This increase needs to be on all aspects except the Step Increase. A step advance is often portrayed as an increase but in fact simply delays the inflationary effect until later. Dont be fooled into thinking that a step advance (as we got last year) is a wage increase, because the individual steps on the scale remain the same. I.e. anyone joining on step 1 towards the end of this year would get the same as someone joining on step 1 in June 2011 which in fact represents a 3.4% lower wage at joining.
Despite the smoke and mirrors behind Scale and Step increases over the years Real Wages have declined steeply and thats even before taking into effect the increases in work demanded for those wages.
Its unlikely any respite will be given on time required from the company to earn the wages. We all know that productivity threshold will not reduce, nor are we likely to have certain duty hours, presently unremunerated, put into the credit hours classification. If anything I suspect more work will be required as this is the less obvious way of reducing real wages.
So we wait. Personally I would rather have a reasonable increase of around 3-4% on all of the above than any profit share. It makes my life more predictable, easier to budget and avoids me having to rely on any profit share to make up the losses suffered through inflation which may be taken care of in one year but not the next.
I ask for little more than to simply earn in real wages what I earned the year before. A step advance would be well received too. That would indicate the company appreciates my loyalty and experience. In return I would give them any and every courtesy to help out, save costs, and go the extra mile to ensure the continuing success and huge profits.
This potentially has a number of aspects that could improve and lift the real income some small amount to where it used to be. There could be increases from or in the following areas:
Basic Salary Scale goes up
Step Advance
Flying Pay Increase
Productivity Pay Increase
Callout Pay Increase
Accommodation Allowance Increase
Education Allowance Increase
Telephone Allowance Increase
Training Allowance Increase (Training Etc)
Training Callout allowance increase
Transport Allowance Increase (Training)
Am I missing anything? From the sounds of things those in the training fold should probably be hoping they do not get a decrease as there seems to be too many of them!
Clearly if there is no change to the list above then effectively a decrease in Real Wages will then occur due to the effects of inflation. Real Wages being wages adjusted for inflation.
The British economist John Maynard Keynes accurately described inflation as the means by which governments confiscate wealth. If salaries do not keep pace with inflation then an individual must then necessarily reduce consumption.
While inflation in the UAE has been reasonably static at 1.3% per year for the past 2 years since the salary scales were reviewed in May 2011, it is expected to climb towards 2% this year. This means that a minimum of a 3.4% increase on all the various remunerations listed above will ensure that by May 2014 we are maintaining the same real wage received in May 2011.
This increase needs to be on all aspects except the Step Increase. A step advance is often portrayed as an increase but in fact simply delays the inflationary effect until later. Dont be fooled into thinking that a step advance (as we got last year) is a wage increase, because the individual steps on the scale remain the same. I.e. anyone joining on step 1 towards the end of this year would get the same as someone joining on step 1 in June 2011 which in fact represents a 3.4% lower wage at joining.
Despite the smoke and mirrors behind Scale and Step increases over the years Real Wages have declined steeply and thats even before taking into effect the increases in work demanded for those wages.
Its unlikely any respite will be given on time required from the company to earn the wages. We all know that productivity threshold will not reduce, nor are we likely to have certain duty hours, presently unremunerated, put into the credit hours classification. If anything I suspect more work will be required as this is the less obvious way of reducing real wages.
So we wait. Personally I would rather have a reasonable increase of around 3-4% on all of the above than any profit share. It makes my life more predictable, easier to budget and avoids me having to rely on any profit share to make up the losses suffered through inflation which may be taken care of in one year but not the next.
I ask for little more than to simply earn in real wages what I earned the year before. A step advance would be well received too. That would indicate the company appreciates my loyalty and experience. In return I would give them any and every courtesy to help out, save costs, and go the extra mile to ensure the continuing success and huge profits.
Keep Dreaming.
You'll be lucky to get 2% on your base and nothing more. What's more likely, actually, is that they'll do some further downward adjustments. Don't like it? There's the door, lest you forget your status in Knoteetingham.
You'll be lucky to get 2% on your base and nothing more. What's more likely, actually, is that they'll do some further downward adjustments. Don't like it? There's the door, lest you forget your status in Knoteetingham.
The problem, Pixy, is that keeping real wages at at least the same level as before is not a management goal.
Their measure of the required renumeration is attracting and retaining sufficient staff.
This has driven previous improvenments in renumeration when staff have been hard to come , and ALSO driven cuts in our pay (such as the PP threshold) when they were confident they were not going to lose people.
HOPEFULLY they see that there IS some writting on the wall (as an example, a large number of American pilots leaving as their Majors start hiring again would put a big dent in our numbers), but the situation right now is record low attrition, with no shortage of very desirable applicants.
Short term I'm not thinking we'll get any substantial improvement.
Still, I thought we'd get a prophit share, so hopefully i'll keep up my average and be wrong about this too
Their measure of the required renumeration is attracting and retaining sufficient staff.
This has driven previous improvenments in renumeration when staff have been hard to come , and ALSO driven cuts in our pay (such as the PP threshold) when they were confident they were not going to lose people.
HOPEFULLY they see that there IS some writting on the wall (as an example, a large number of American pilots leaving as their Majors start hiring again would put a big dent in our numbers), but the situation right now is record low attrition, with no shortage of very desirable applicants.
Short term I'm not thinking we'll get any substantial improvement.
Still, I thought we'd get a prophit share, so hopefully i'll keep up my average and be wrong about this too
I've seen both attitudes.
The large influx of US pilots was 2-4 years ago, so a lot have or are coming up to command (at least on the 777), so leaving that to go on the end of a long seniority list, still with the spectre of furlough over your head, is a big call.
But Wives, Family and just being Home is hard to resist. At least some are bound to go.
The large influx of US pilots was 2-4 years ago, so a lot have or are coming up to command (at least on the 777), so leaving that to go on the end of a long seniority list, still with the spectre of furlough over your head, is a big call.
But Wives, Family and just being Home is hard to resist. At least some are bound to go.
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As an American you would be a fool not to at least look at the opportunity. All of the majors contracts are leaps and bounds better than EK and then when you examine the lifestyle with a closer look you will see that most pilots only work 12-13 days a month and from about 6am to 11pm. Hell even on reserve you are guaranteed 13 days off. I am sure the Airbus captains will kill to have that many days off with the hours flying listed above.
However saying all that most of the US pilots at EK would have a hard time getting hired by a major. A lot of these pilots come from Mesa and other crap regionals and couldn't get hired before. There is a reason why they are at those crap airlines.
However saying all that most of the US pilots at EK would have a hard time getting hired by a major. A lot of these pilots come from Mesa and other crap regionals and couldn't get hired before. There is a reason why they are at those crap airlines.
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Have you always been such an arrogant and condescending p***k?
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Wow Alconguin Crusader,
This is the second thread you're referring to your colleagues in this manner, I often give the benefit of doubt, but you genuinely come across as a total dick?
This is the second thread you're referring to your colleagues in this manner, I often give the benefit of doubt, but you genuinely come across as a total dick?
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Of course chaps; maybe the reason Alconguin is here himself is because HE is crap and couldn't make the, what do you American chaps call them?, ah yes - The Majors
Most of the Yanks I know have no intention of heading back to the US
Most of the Yanks I know have no intention of heading back to the US
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They are probably working on creating a position for Algonquin Crusader - Perfect mangement material.
Boy, what fun he must be to share a flight deck with. Must be very humbling to be in his hallowed company, us being from such inferior aviation stock.
Boy, what fun he must be to share a flight deck with. Must be very humbling to be in his hallowed company, us being from such inferior aviation stock.
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alconguin US pilots came to middle east because Majors didn't hire any pilots since 2001 not because of the Qualifications..... Are you one of the famous pilots that crossed the line and got s....tlisted in all the US airlines and can't get hired back home?
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Basic Salary Scale goes up
Step Advance
Flying Pay Increase
Productivity Pay Increase
Callout Pay Increase
Accommodation Allowance Increase
Education Allowance Increase
Telephone Allowance Increase
Training Allowance Increase (Training Etc)
Training Callout allowance increase
Transport Allowance Increase (Training)
Step Advance
Flying Pay Increase
Productivity Pay Increase
Callout Pay Increase
Accommodation Allowance Increase
Education Allowance Increase
Telephone Allowance Increase
Training Allowance Increase (Training Etc)
Training Callout allowance increase
Transport Allowance Increase (Training)
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Al. Cru ..not only disrespects other nationalities...but fellow Americans who came up a different route.
Guys like him are ten a penny in the US.
Anyone worth his salt will wait to judge based on personal experience. We have all met people from stellar backgrounds who are crap and those from less salubrious who are great...not for Al Cru...
His posts personify the "arrogant yank" and for rest of the us who walk quietly...
apologies to you all.
f.
Guys like him are ten a penny in the US.
Anyone worth his salt will wait to judge based on personal experience. We have all met people from stellar backgrounds who are crap and those from less salubrious who are great...not for Al Cru...
His posts personify the "arrogant yank" and for rest of the us who walk quietly...
apologies to you all.
f.
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