Correct Phraseology?
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Correct Phraseology?
Hello all!
Quick question:
Can someone please clarify what is the correct phraseology for a rejected takeoff? Is it:
" _ _ _ _ _ rejected takeoff "
" _ _ _ _ _ stopping "
or is it something else?
Thanks in advance for your responses!
p.s.... i could not find the answer in CAP 413
Quick question:
Can someone please clarify what is the correct phraseology for a rejected takeoff? Is it:
" _ _ _ _ _ rejected takeoff "
" _ _ _ _ _ stopping "
or is it something else?
Thanks in advance for your responses!
p.s.... i could not find the answer in CAP 413
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We got formerly tought:
"_ _ _ _ _ STOPPING" (via ATC, is the official and correct version)
but the callout in the cockpit according to your companies procedures can be
"REJECT !" - "ABORT" or whatever your OM states.
"_ _ _ _ _ STOPPING" (via ATC, is the official and correct version)
but the callout in the cockpit according to your companies procedures can be
"REJECT !" - "ABORT" or whatever your OM states.
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Must be the silly party season. Guy asks a sensible question, actually, gets the right answer but opens the flood gates for a bit of banter. It all changed when I was a one ringer at LHR. Call on the flightdeck to other crewmembers was "Abandon". It was so long ago that I cannot remember why it changed to "Stop". However, in the sim, my check, bolting down the runway, bell, fire, swing too............gees, kept it straight but exclaimed " Abaaah.strop"! Took a few moments for all of us to get settled for the repeat .
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As I said before. The wording within your company might be different every time. There is NO-HAVE-TO-BE phrase that is the same in every company.
EXCEPT the call via radio. That one HAS to be: "_ _ _ _ _ STOPPING!"
You could for instance say: "GIROOONIMOORE!" instead of "Abort", "Abandon" or whatsoever. If your Operations Manual and company procedures state that this is the standard procedure (if its certified by the local CAA) - you have to follow it.
Only the radio call has to be the correct wording in EVERY airline.
If the ATC wants to be correct its the same thing:
"Report ready for departure"(Holding Point or Lined up) - "Cleared for Takeoff" (given from ATC), so one doesnt confuse (careful-old procedure) "report ready for takeoff" with " chrrchrr chr r takeoff - roger, cleared for takeoff" while actually it shouldve been a waiting order instead.
If you say e.g. "Abandon" via radio - Of course common sense will tell you that there is an aircraft on the runway that intends to stop. But you dont know for certain. It could also be the last vectorclearance given to someone else by ATC and someone shouts "Abandon" because he might be on the same trail (just an example).
Correct wording is very important - and is a failure critique point in many checkflights.
EXCEPT the call via radio. That one HAS to be: "_ _ _ _ _ STOPPING!"
You could for instance say: "GIROOONIMOORE!" instead of "Abort", "Abandon" or whatsoever. If your Operations Manual and company procedures state that this is the standard procedure (if its certified by the local CAA) - you have to follow it.
Only the radio call has to be the correct wording in EVERY airline.
If the ATC wants to be correct its the same thing:
"Report ready for departure"(Holding Point or Lined up) - "Cleared for Takeoff" (given from ATC), so one doesnt confuse (careful-old procedure) "report ready for takeoff" with " chrrchrr chr r takeoff - roger, cleared for takeoff" while actually it shouldve been a waiting order instead.
If you say e.g. "Abandon" via radio - Of course common sense will tell you that there is an aircraft on the runway that intends to stop. But you dont know for certain. It could also be the last vectorclearance given to someone else by ATC and someone shouts "Abandon" because he might be on the same trail (just an example).
Correct wording is very important - and is a failure critique point in many checkflights.
