How long will EK DEC program continue
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How long will EK DEC program continue
Hey fellow aviators.
I am a new poster here. But I was interested in the EK Dec programme. But since i am not getting leave from my current outfit, and due some very serious domestic issues, cannot attend or apply for Dec at Ek for at least 2 months.
Can anyone tell me how long might this Dec program expect to last.
Is it here to stay or is it a small window ie they stop when they meet their numbers.
Anybody with a reliable timeline. Would certainly help. Current outfit in bad shape. Need help. Thanks.
I am a new poster here. But I was interested in the EK Dec programme. But since i am not getting leave from my current outfit, and due some very serious domestic issues, cannot attend or apply for Dec at Ek for at least 2 months.
Can anyone tell me how long might this Dec program expect to last.
Is it here to stay or is it a small window ie they stop when they meet their numbers.
Anybody with a reliable timeline. Would certainly help. Current outfit in bad shape. Need help. Thanks.
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It will probably run for ever but do not expect anybody in EK to help you out.
Get an application in now would be my advice as I assume you can delay an interview if selected to suit your timeframe.
Get an application in now would be my advice as I assume you can delay an interview if selected to suit your timeframe.
gestapo,
The number of DECs required seems to change quite a bit. I believe they are looking for 70ish this year (I am sure someone else will have better idea of the number). We were told that none would be hired after this financial year, however, things do change. I don't know how many have been selected so far, so as Millers says, apply and see what happens.
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The number of DECs required seems to change quite a bit. I believe they are looking for 70ish this year (I am sure someone else will have better idea of the number). We were told that none would be hired after this financial year, however, things do change. I don't know how many have been selected so far, so as Millers says, apply and see what happens.
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So, Gestapo, you think it is funny to name yourself after the secret police responsible for murder,terror,deportation and torture of thousands, if not millions? Ever heard of Anne Frank? Or the Scholl siblings? Still laughing?
Shame on you.
Shame on you.
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711 - The irony of your post might be lost upon you; wherein, with a name like that (i.e. Gestapo) I suspect he'd fit right in!... in that (in case you haven't noticed) the vast majority of Arab countries are not fans of either that State of Israel, and / or Jews, and / or anybody else who's not of their religious 'faith' (with the vast majority of us being classified as 'infidels' no less; all be it necessary infidels). 
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Old King,
the Arabs don't like Jews??? Wow, this is amazing stuff, never thought about that, are you really really sure? Where did you hear that??? This is mind blowing stuff, thanks for the info!.
This is not about anybodys "irony" and not about Arabs, and of course I understood the intended "joke", that is precisely my point.
Why is it funny or ironic to name oneself after a secret police that killed hundred of thousands of innocent people, among them women, children, jews and non-jews ? Because the Arabs don' t like Jews ? Ha Ha Ha.
I say it is simply ignorant and disgusting.
the Arabs don't like Jews??? Wow, this is amazing stuff, never thought about that, are you really really sure? Where did you hear that??? This is mind blowing stuff, thanks for the info!.
This is not about anybodys "irony" and not about Arabs, and of course I understood the intended "joke", that is precisely my point.
Why is it funny or ironic to name oneself after a secret police that killed hundred of thousands of innocent people, among them women, children, jews and non-jews ? Because the Arabs don' t like Jews ? Ha Ha Ha.
I say it is simply ignorant and disgusting.
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Guys thanks for the info. But i really can't apply for at least 4 weeks. And someone close to managment in ek tells me that the Dec programme is nearly over. They have made their numbers. Cut down the 'original' requirment by about 50%. Therefore now have numbers.
Poor fellows with interviews in july will be sent home with some reason or another. Plenty of traps until the medicals i am told. So plenty of reasons to say bye bye to dec candidate. No guilt there.
This was told to me by a colleague. Therefore i was asking here.
@tinyjet. Yes i have the plate.
Poor fellows with interviews in july will be sent home with some reason or another. Plenty of traps until the medicals i am told. So plenty of reasons to say bye bye to dec candidate. No guilt there.
This was told to me by a colleague. Therefore i was asking here.
@tinyjet. Yes i have the plate.
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We have hired 40 DECs who have less experience than current FOs in the company in terms of their previous command time
Having said that, I entirely take your point
If management admit that, and do nothing about it, they are not doing their job! No surprise there I guess.
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By what i heard, they needed 150 originally. But now with the whale programme running on thin ice the revised numbers were 100. A lot were retreads. Therefore numbers have more or less been met.
The rest of the 'invites' will be found one reason or another to be sent home....
I wonder if it's still worth it, with the syrian/iranian issues running so tight and all the ME looking like a pool of gasoline in an electrical thunderstorm.
Time for me to seriously reconsider.
Which, i guess could also be the reason behind the 'haggling' of the 180's. The haggling was pseudo, the intention real!
Not to invest further in a white elephant in an almost war ridden area.
Just my thoughts.
The rest of the 'invites' will be found one reason or another to be sent home....
I wonder if it's still worth it, with the syrian/iranian issues running so tight and all the ME looking like a pool of gasoline in an electrical thunderstorm.
Time for me to seriously reconsider.
Which, i guess could also be the reason behind the 'haggling' of the 180's. The haggling was pseudo, the intention real!
Not to invest further in a white elephant in an almost war ridden area.
Just my thoughts.
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What is the upgrade policy for FOs? Seems like guys there have more than enough experience. I have about 13K-14k hours and 2500 command time on the NG.... What are the requirements for DEC? Not to upset you, just curious.
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Safer?
of course not, its just cheaper to take DEC, they dont care in the short term, but medium term it might cost more as the new DEC are not used to the operation and destinations....more chances for mistakes and conflicts to happen
Imagine also the senior FO with loads of experience and previous command time, flying with new DEC that barely meets the requirements, might not be the best for CRM...
Imagine also the senior FO with loads of experience and previous command time, flying with new DEC that barely meets the requirements, might not be the best for CRM...
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Quite frankly, they won't even touch anyone 'that barely meets requirments'. Whatever that means. Whoever(besides the favoured ones), who make it to the program will have tons of experience and skill. Equivalent or more than your regular joe ek captain. That's a taken.
I, however can't comment on the 'golden children'.....
I, however can't comment on the 'golden children'.....
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I have flown with a bunch of DECs during my time here at EK. Most were aware of their shortcomings, regarding company procedures and routes. A few were arrogant and bad pilots, to say the least.
DECs are a normal occurrence at EK since its inception; the (mis) management will always resort to them to save a few dirhams.
To clarify ... Arabs don't like the Israelis and Zionists. The problem is that most Israelis belong to the Jewish faith; thence, the misconception.
DECs are a normal occurrence at EK since its inception; the (mis) management will always resort to them to save a few dirhams.
To clarify ... Arabs don't like the Israelis and Zionists. The problem is that most Israelis belong to the Jewish faith; thence, the misconception.