EK Hold Pool (FO's)
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No I didn't. To be honest I have no idea how to do it and besides I don't see a reason to do it either. With my extensive experience on the CRJ I won't be one of the guys who will start next JAN
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Same thoughts here.
Why on earth they made me waste my time if they had enough pilots? No person from flight ops could just tell the HR guys: heyy dudes stop calling pilots, it's ok! We have enough!
I spoke with a guy here in the forum interviewing in July 7th!! At that time they already knew that they were not in the position to offer all the swimmers a position before April 2013 and did not cancel his interview. That's simply insane, they are deliberately interviewing guys that have no option to be hired.
Looks like I'll be swimming awhile! One of the last guys to come through the process! You'd think by then, they would have figured out that I wasn't needed??
Why on earth they made me waste my time if they had enough pilots? No person from flight ops could just tell the HR guys: heyy dudes stop calling pilots, it's ok! We have enough!
I spoke with a guy here in the forum interviewing in July 7th!! At that time they already knew that they were not in the position to offer all the swimmers a position before April 2013 and did not cancel his interview. That's simply insane, they are deliberately interviewing guys that have no option to be hired.
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Archer,
I know you are disappointed, but HR is there for the EK business, not to further your career. The HR function is to hire the best candidate available at the time. If they interview someone better qualified than those already in the hold pool, the new dude gets the job. Any research on EK would have told you that this company cares only about the dollar, employees matter little here.
If you gain more experience whilst in the hold pool, your chances of the job improve. Hence the reason I suggest you keep updating. EK is not the only airline to do this, I know people who missed out on jobs with BA and QF after being in hold files for long times, while others were offered jobs straight after the interview.
The hiring of 100ish DECs has made a huge difference (reduction) in the number of new hires (FO) required. I think they were surprised that so many would apply for the DEC job when 1st year Capt pay is being offered, as there are much better deals elsewhere.
Good luck to you mate,
The Don
I know you are disappointed, but HR is there for the EK business, not to further your career. The HR function is to hire the best candidate available at the time. If they interview someone better qualified than those already in the hold pool, the new dude gets the job. Any research on EK would have told you that this company cares only about the dollar, employees matter little here.
If you gain more experience whilst in the hold pool, your chances of the job improve. Hence the reason I suggest you keep updating. EK is not the only airline to do this, I know people who missed out on jobs with BA and QF after being in hold files for long times, while others were offered jobs straight after the interview.
The hiring of 100ish DECs has made a huge difference (reduction) in the number of new hires (FO) required. I think they were surprised that so many would apply for the DEC job when 1st year Capt pay is being offered, as there are much better deals elsewhere.
Good luck to you mate,
The Don
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...but HR is there for the EK business, not to further your career.
I'm happy i had a chance to go through their process regardless of the outcome
Gonna swim as long as I can and hope for the best!!
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Very positive Jetstreamer,
and as don mentioned, its not only EK doing this, I was my self in a holding pool of a major UK airline, and no job offer in the end of long waiting...
the requirement of number of pilots needed always change in any major airline.
safe landing
and as don mentioned, its not only EK doing this, I was my self in a holding pool of a major UK airline, and no job offer in the end of long waiting...
the requirement of number of pilots needed always change in any major airline.
safe landing
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End of Feb...
But...
I doubt it means that much really: we all have different profiles and they seem to pick people of out the pool according to specific criterias, length in the pool probably only a factor when people have similar profiles...
On our end, feels like lottery!! Who's next? You will know by watching the next episode right here, on the prune...
But...
I doubt it means that much really: we all have different profiles and they seem to pick people of out the pool according to specific criterias, length in the pool probably only a factor when people have similar profiles...
On our end, feels like lottery!! Who's next? You will know by watching the next episode right here, on the prune...
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PSP 1 in early March. Dubai PSP 3 in early May.
Same opinion as above, not a matter of time in he pool, I guess is all about experience, type and probably our score in the tests.
Good luck!
Same opinion as above, not a matter of time in he pool, I guess is all about experience, type and probably our score in the tests.
Good luck!
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The situation is this (just so people don't have to ask the same questions):
Hold pool is based on your final interview date and runs from Feb to April (roughly - the mid point of the hold pool in terms of numbers is mid-March). All airbus courses are now filled for the rest of the year (financial year). A number of people have been fished out of the pool to start in the next few months (777 and A330) but these are people who are not currently flying. There are (or were) roughly 150 pilots in the hold pool, most or all of whom are FOs.
The next 777 course is due to be held in Jan 13 and people will be selected for the next course based on their interview date only.
If there is anything inaccurate there - please feel free to correct me.
Hold pool is based on your final interview date and runs from Feb to April (roughly - the mid point of the hold pool in terms of numbers is mid-March). All airbus courses are now filled for the rest of the year (financial year). A number of people have been fished out of the pool to start in the next few months (777 and A330) but these are people who are not currently flying. There are (or were) roughly 150 pilots in the hold pool, most or all of whom are FOs.
The next 777 course is due to be held in Jan 13 and people will be selected for the next course based on their interview date only.
If there is anything inaccurate there - please feel free to correct me.
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Al Murdoch
Pool runs from Feb to July. I assessed early May and know people who went there early this month.
That's not correct. In the last EK email they clearly said that the last 24 guys were joining the 330 and all coming from airbus. Nothing about flying or not nowadays (actualy I know a guy with a current job in 320 joining EK 330 this month or next one)
I would say that being or not flying now means nothing to this as I am unemployed and did not get the job yet. In the other side, date of joining the pool means nothing too, as a couple of guys from the May interviews joined EK passing in front of Feb people (Airbus experienced).
Pool runs from Feb to July. I assessed early May and know people who went there early this month.
A number of people have been fished out of the pool to start in the next few months (777 and A330) but these are people who are not currently flying
I would say that being or not flying now means nothing to this as I am unemployed and did not get the job yet. In the other side, date of joining the pool means nothing too, as a couple of guys from the May interviews joined EK passing in front of Feb people (Airbus experienced).
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All the evidence that I've seen is that people are being offered courses according to their assessment date. The only exceptions have been:
1) unemployed candidates getting priority for cancellations; and
2) airbus rated folks given priority as they are the only ones legible for CCQs.
This is also what they stated in the most recent email.
1) unemployed candidates getting priority for cancellations; and
2) airbus rated folks given priority as they are the only ones legible for CCQs.
This is also what they stated in the most recent email.
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Bigdaviet
Not sure about the unemployed people. And did not see any info regarding this on their last email.
Actually, what they told me in a private email was to try to find a contract job. According to the HR woman I talked to being unemployed and accordingly non current "may work against me in the near future".
Not sure about the unemployed people. And did not see any info regarding this on their last email.
Actually, what they told me in a private email was to try to find a contract job. According to the HR woman I talked to being unemployed and accordingly non current "may work against me in the near future".
