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From: land o' the free
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Very sad indeed. I remember reading about it when it first happened back then. Unfortunately with these occurences really does shed a poor light on the emirati justice system, and the culture that aspires to be 1st world.
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From: Salomon Island
This will set a terrible and dangerous example for the young and not so young emiraties. Thanks to this verdic, they will be encouraged to beat the sh&^% out of the expats cuz at the end of the day, nothing really will happen to them. It's time to call Don Corleone and make them an offer they won't refuse!!!!!
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From: Monrovia / Liberia
And compare that sentence to the one meted out to this young lad:
National News, Teen in trouble for kissing girls | 7DAYS
and also reported here:
Boy, 15, is jailed for THREE YEARS by UAE court for kissing 2 sisters | Mail Online
National News, Teen in trouble for kissing girls | 7DAYS
and also reported here:
Boy, 15, is jailed for THREE YEARS by UAE court for kissing 2 sisters | Mail Online
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From: hearth
You won't imagine how relieved I'm of not being there anymore. No amount of money and no career can repay the total loss of even the most basic rights that you suffer when migrate to those sad shores. Shall we leave world aviation to fall in their hands?
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From: Europe
Jetaim, I couldn't agree more. The country is a disgrace when it comes to judicial matters...well lots more things but that is a whole other thread. Beating a pregnant woman....what kind of unsocialized, barbaric miscreants this society creates. You could not pay me enough money to drive those same roads ever again and rub shoulders with their pristine white dishdasha.
So, so, so glad to be gone
So, so, so glad to be gone
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From: australia
Whilst I am not the president of the I love Dubai fan club (yes I still live here, and yes I find plenty of things which really grip my s%&t), unfortunately this punishment is probably not too far off what would be given in Australia. For example....last year, a family in a shopping centre food court was attacked for no apparent reason by a group of thugs....the father was beaten and whilst on the ground they continued with a chair...their punishment was a slap on the wrist, a stern don't do it again or else and thats about it.
So, as frustrating as it is, these instances of spineless and inappropriate punishments are not unique to the UAE. Sad state of affairs really.
Cheers
So, as frustrating as it is, these instances of spineless and inappropriate punishments are not unique to the UAE. Sad state of affairs really.
Cheers
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From: Middle East
I think that is a pretty poor comment. I know a lot of Iranians. They are good people. Just the leadership is crap like most places.
Agreed the locals that have done this deserve a lot more.
The young dude in auh that got busted in the girls place, there must be a lot more to this story.
Agreed the locals that have done this deserve a lot more.
The young dude in auh that got busted in the girls place, there must be a lot more to this story.
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From: Dubai
Although not an ex pat I am a frequent business traveller to Dubai spending on average about eight weeks per year there. Ive never really had a bad experience there except for the odd cocky local mouthing off (probably because they know that the police will back them up) which I tend to let wash over me and view as an occupational hazard. I also realise that being a white Englishman I dont see 1/10 of the 
that those with a darker skin and the wrong passport have to contend with.
Whilst I dont think there is much the UK or any other foreign country can do to interfere in the justice system there I would suggest that one way we may be able to focus the UAE governments minds on the discrimination against foreigners there would be to keep a record of the protagonists such as those who attacked the Canadian couple and should they travel abroad then they are arrested on arrival for the offence and tried and sentenced for the crime properly.
I will say that Ive also known and worked with many Emiratis who are good people but unfortunately every society has its thug element and fair share of idiots. The problem in the UAE and some other neighbouring states is that they get backed by the law.
that those with a darker skin and the wrong passport have to contend with.Whilst I dont think there is much the UK or any other foreign country can do to interfere in the justice system there I would suggest that one way we may be able to focus the UAE governments minds on the discrimination against foreigners there would be to keep a record of the protagonists such as those who attacked the Canadian couple and should they travel abroad then they are arrested on arrival for the offence and tried and sentenced for the crime properly.
I will say that Ive also known and worked with many Emiratis who are good people but unfortunately every society has its thug element and fair share of idiots. The problem in the UAE and some other neighbouring states is that they get backed by the law.
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From: Sharjah
very sad indeed
Greg Kelly Rape Case: No Charges Will Be Filed Against New York Police Commissioner's Son
NEW YORK -- Prosecutors say the New York Police Department commissioner's son won't face charges in connection to a rape accusation.
Greg Kelly Rape Case: No Charges Will Be Filed Against New York Police Commissioner's Son
What a crappy legal system in the US! A rapist is set free. Wait! remember OJ? Thats a differenent story.
Greg Kelly Rape Case: No Charges Will Be Filed Against New York Police Commissioner's Son
NEW YORK -- Prosecutors say the New York Police Department commissioner's son won't face charges in connection to a rape accusation.
Greg Kelly Rape Case: No Charges Will Be Filed Against New York Police Commissioner's Son
What a crappy legal system in the US! A rapist is set free. Wait! remember OJ? Thats a differenent story.
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From: Boldly going where no split infinitive has gone before..
QatarA340,
Much as I think a lot of the posts above are unfair, as no legal system is perfect, it proves nothing that you can find one case where there was insufficient evidence to make a charge stand. That's what happens in a legal system where guilt must be proved- and there was little doubt of guilt in the case this thread is about.
If you wanted to get into that sort of tit-for-tat I could take your OJ (For which there were no witnesses) and raise you an Abu Dhabi Prince torturing an Iranian (for which there was a video!!!).
AT LEAST these guys were convicted and will do some jail time.Not enough, and, no, probably not as much as an Expat might expect for the same crime.
BUT if they are first time offenders they would probably have gotten off with a suspended sentence in a Western country.
Much as I think a lot of the posts above are unfair, as no legal system is perfect, it proves nothing that you can find one case where there was insufficient evidence to make a charge stand. That's what happens in a legal system where guilt must be proved- and there was little doubt of guilt in the case this thread is about.
If you wanted to get into that sort of tit-for-tat I could take your OJ (For which there were no witnesses) and raise you an Abu Dhabi Prince torturing an Iranian (for which there was a video!!!).
AT LEAST these guys were convicted and will do some jail time.Not enough, and, no, probably not as much as an Expat might expect for the same crime.
BUT if they are first time offenders they would probably have gotten off with a suspended sentence in a Western country.
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From: Sharjah
Wizofoz, that is exactly what I meant. I was being sarcastic here.
A lot of the posts above have to to critize everything in the UAE where they have the same problems in their own back yards. No legal system is perfect.
Now tell me, what is the point of posting this thread in the Pilots Forum? Can you even point out one good post about anything the Arabian Gulf?
Yes, I saw the sheik torturing the guy, the kid that got raped, but there will be always the child molester and the muder who is free somewhere in the US. Craziness exisits everywhere. But, Im not trying to have a tit for tat, but just to show how stupid, one-sided this thread adn the thread-starter is.
A lot of the posts above have to to critize everything in the UAE where they have the same problems in their own back yards. No legal system is perfect.
Now tell me, what is the point of posting this thread in the Pilots Forum? Can you even point out one good post about anything the Arabian Gulf?
Yes, I saw the sheik torturing the guy, the kid that got raped, but there will be always the child molester and the muder who is free somewhere in the US. Craziness exisits everywhere. But, Im not trying to have a tit for tat, but just to show how stupid, one-sided this thread adn the thread-starter is.
