Air arabia. hard time
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My brother met his wife in AA. They have been with the company for more than 10 years now (AA just started operating then). My brother started as a PSA and now he's the Manager of one of the departments. 
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Air Arabia is in business as usual. For the last 7 years it has been almost the same tune for me. Do you job, max out and go home for 2 month. Its hard work but the money is decent. Roster is a bit low on the off days but some days you just do Doha and go home, so you actually spend 4 hours at work. The big issue is for the MPL since they get half the salary for way too long. DEC seems to get a fair deal as there is a strong influx. Its not a career airline, but which one is nowadays?
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@nitrowired
since you work with AA, may I ask couple of questions about the airline?
How much of layover do pilots get in a month? (a lot of dest. seem like a turn around to me!)
Does AA also work like you opt for flights you wanna do (like the system I heard of that works in Emirates and some other major airlines), which is like you mostly work out your own schedule?
Does the airline provide housing for its pilots? And are they good?
Thanks in advance.
since you work with AA, may I ask couple of questions about the airline?
How much of layover do pilots get in a month? (a lot of dest. seem like a turn around to me!)
Does AA also work like you opt for flights you wanna do (like the system I heard of that works in Emirates and some other major airlines), which is like you mostly work out your own schedule?
Does the airline provide housing for its pilots? And are they good?
Thanks in advance.
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You can expect around 15 duty days a month, out of those 6 to 8 are night flights. Mostly 2 sectors a day and one a month 4 short sectors( shj-doh-shj + shj-lrr-shj) layover in CMB, CGP, DAC once a month on average. Latly maybe a bit more since we have a layover from rak to dac and cgp( only after night flight).
Latovers are min rest but nobody complains sice you do not want to stay in Bangladesh anyway. Hotel is substandard to my opinion, other people are ok with it. Its the only hotels in those places( CGP and DAC).
As a Capt you get basic, school allowance, housing, transport and uniform allowance + flight pay.
Basic: 22 to 31k depend on hours on type.
Housing: 12 k
School: 33k/yr per kid
Transport: 2k
Uniform: 500
Flight pay: that depends and ranges from nothing to way over 20k if you push your self.
As Fo its really a bad deal, usted to be good but now with a lot of MPL guys pushing the demand the salary is really low. I would say unlivable in UAE.
We do have a bidding system but it works kind of weird so you might get one out 5 flights you are entitled to bid. Outcome is never guaranteed.
Work hard, play by the rules and do not stick your head too much and you will be fine. hit you 900 y year as soon as you can a go home. That was my way of live close to a decade now.( I average out 45 ALV + 45 Off/ yr).And by the way our 100hr a month are always stick time
Caprains can have commuting rosters and from what I hear people are happy, 6/2w or 3/1mt.
One warning though, never come here for command upgrade, or further promotion. Failure rate for upgrade is beyond understandable and only 1 out of 10 maybe makes the change from right to left. 3 chances are given and most people fail all 3 and leave. I stuck around because I got through.
Latovers are min rest but nobody complains sice you do not want to stay in Bangladesh anyway. Hotel is substandard to my opinion, other people are ok with it. Its the only hotels in those places( CGP and DAC).
As a Capt you get basic, school allowance, housing, transport and uniform allowance + flight pay.
Basic: 22 to 31k depend on hours on type.
Housing: 12 k
School: 33k/yr per kid
Transport: 2k
Uniform: 500
Flight pay: that depends and ranges from nothing to way over 20k if you push your self.
As Fo its really a bad deal, usted to be good but now with a lot of MPL guys pushing the demand the salary is really low. I would say unlivable in UAE.
We do have a bidding system but it works kind of weird so you might get one out 5 flights you are entitled to bid. Outcome is never guaranteed.
Work hard, play by the rules and do not stick your head too much and you will be fine. hit you 900 y year as soon as you can a go home. That was my way of live close to a decade now.( I average out 45 ALV + 45 Off/ yr).And by the way our 100hr a month are always stick time
Caprains can have commuting rosters and from what I hear people are happy, 6/2w or 3/1mt.
One warning though, never come here for command upgrade, or further promotion. Failure rate for upgrade is beyond understandable and only 1 out of 10 maybe makes the change from right to left. 3 chances are given and most people fail all 3 and leave. I stuck around because I got through.
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Bond is changing all the time but usually its substantial even if you come rated and experienced. There were people who left to go and work for the neighbours but rumor is that there is some sort of no poaching agreement now in place. However thats just a rumour.
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As far as I can see, the Air Arabia MPL has to be the worst cadet pilot deal out there. It is extortionately expensive and beats anything of the like that we have in the Europe. The remuneration isn't in proportion to the money spent at all and accomodation isn't included, uniforms and medical renewal fees aren't even included, I don't know how they can even begin to jusitify the high price. Make sure to read the small print, there is a AED 110,000 to be signed over by cheque at the end of your training for line training, a bit of p2f thrown in too it would seem.
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Aiza you don't seem to know an awful lot about the current cadet pilot scene so I wouldn't take such a smart tone.
To start, with the AirArabia MPL you have to pay just short of £600 in order to be assessed, that would send most logical people running (it did for me anyway). Added to the fact that the course itself is priced at way above what would be perceived to be the market value for it. As well as not even having the very basics such as accomodation, medical renewal, uniforms etc. I'm sorry but I simply cannot see anything good about this programme other than the fact it gives you a place on the flight deck, but there are far cheaper options out there that offer the same type of guarantee so I can't see why anyone in their right mind would go for this.
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You're joking right ? I suggest you start doing some proper research on what is out there before coming to nonsensical conclusions. There are plenty of other schemes out there with far greater security and at a cheaper price (namely the ones that don't charge £600 for an assessment !)
To start, with the AirArabia MPL you have to pay just short of £600 in order to be assessed, that would send most logical people running (it did for me anyway). Added to the fact that the course itself is priced at way above what would be perceived to be the market value for it. As well as not even having the very basics such as accomodation, medical renewal, uniforms etc. I'm sorry but I simply cannot see anything good about this programme other than the fact it gives you a place on the flight deck, but there are far cheaper options out there that offer the same type of guarantee so I can't see why anyone in their right mind would go for this.
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You don't find a therotical 18 month program and 1500 hours on jet any where else right?
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I find it extremely hard to believe you're a cadet given that thread you started. If you're already a cadet what good is it knowing what other programmes are out there considering you've already started ?
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DEC AA Info please
Any info on DEC at AA is much appreciated:
1. Actual Pay for 90-100 hours a month (PM will do just fine, or enough information to calculate it)
2. Whether accommodation is manageable on the pay/allowance
3. Scheduling - someone mentioned that it's an average of 15 working days/month. Does one manage to bunch off time so as to be able to go home etc?
4. The annual leaves are in addition to what one might get after maxing his/her time out?
1. Actual Pay for 90-100 hours a month (PM will do just fine, or enough information to calculate it)
2. Whether accommodation is manageable on the pay/allowance
3. Scheduling - someone mentioned that it's an average of 15 working days/month. Does one manage to bunch off time so as to be able to go home etc?
4. The annual leaves are in addition to what one might get after maxing his/her time out?
