Ramadan in UAE
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From: Iriomote
Fatbus - Definitely.
Looks like a well orchestrated smear campaign against sassypilotswife!
Nitro rig, there is no concept of a "borrowed country"
Swan man - again, how do you base the Kingdom as being the "holiest land" please do not say because of Makkah and Medinah!?
A380-800 the fundamental basis of most UAE countries is Islam. Therefore a requirement by the countries to respect it's religion. Similarly, when in the Vatican - there is a need to respect Christianity. Last I checked, there isn't a temple, mosque, synagogue in the Vatican!? You will find Christians and people of other religious belief in the Middle East. It seems you have bigger problem with religion which is beyond the scope of this thread.
Jetaim - To go off on a tangent and to start a smear campaign on sassypilotswife by using selected excerpts written by her in other threads is ludicrous.
You need to grow a set of ..............
The case in simple, we're all in the region for work, money. No one has forced us to be here. The rules are clear most of time and we know what to expect. If you do not like it, leave. It is simples.
TT-7
Looks like a well orchestrated smear campaign against sassypilotswife!
Nitro rig, there is no concept of a "borrowed country"
Swan man - again, how do you base the Kingdom as being the "holiest land" please do not say because of Makkah and Medinah!?
A380-800 the fundamental basis of most UAE countries is Islam. Therefore a requirement by the countries to respect it's religion. Similarly, when in the Vatican - there is a need to respect Christianity. Last I checked, there isn't a temple, mosque, synagogue in the Vatican!? You will find Christians and people of other religious belief in the Middle East. It seems you have bigger problem with religion which is beyond the scope of this thread.
Jetaim - To go off on a tangent and to start a smear campaign on sassypilotswife by using selected excerpts written by her in other threads is ludicrous.
You need to grow a set of ..............
The case in simple, we're all in the region for work, money. No one has forced us to be here. The rules are clear most of time and we know what to expect. If you do not like it, leave. It is simples.
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....just stepping back a little in this thread, I hate to be pedantic but....isn't the earth an oblate spheroid (as opposed to 'round')? My understanding of the term is that it is slightly flattened at the poles.
There, that's a navigators training for you....! I dream of winning a lot of money one day with useless trivia like that!
There, that's a navigators training for you....! I dream of winning a lot of money one day with useless trivia like that!
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From: Iriomote
The answer on answers.com is wrong. There is no mosque, temple, synagogue in the Vatican.
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And now back on topic, what do you suggest as a solution for those staying in the Middle East and unhappy with the rules of the land?
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And now back on topic, what do you suggest as a solution for those staying in the Middle East and unhappy with the rules of the land?
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Apologies but it seems commonplace between you and your friends on this thread to pick up a petty excerpt and then use this in an attempt to discredit a fuller post.
It is my mistake, I meant to say countries in the Middle East and not UAE. It may appear that I may not be paying as much attention as you are to this thread.
Yes, I too am frustrated by a lot in the Middle East. Inconsistency is rife in most countries or it is simply amendments to existing rules.
It is my mistake, I meant to say countries in the Middle East and not UAE. It may appear that I may not be paying as much attention as you are to this thread.
Yes, I too am frustrated by a lot in the Middle East. Inconsistency is rife in most countries or it is simply amendments to existing rules.
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From: Michigan
You guys are not being accurate. There is probably no mosque or temple in Vatican City but there is also no church in Mecca.
There are plenty of mosques in Italy but hardly any (if any at all) churches in Saudi. Last time I checked crucifixes were illegal in Saudi and taken upon arrival.
It does not seem fair how Islam balances itself. The saying "you knew the rules when you joined and if you don't like it leave" is just crap. It is time the Arab lands respected us as we respect them.
Don't give me that religon crap. Not one Islamic country is democratic. It is just another way to keep the people down in the autocratic regimes that are sure to fall in the years to come.
There are plenty of mosques in Italy but hardly any (if any at all) churches in Saudi. Last time I checked crucifixes were illegal in Saudi and taken upon arrival.
It does not seem fair how Islam balances itself. The saying "you knew the rules when you joined and if you don't like it leave" is just crap. It is time the Arab lands respected us as we respect them.
Don't give me that religon crap. Not one Islamic country is democratic. It is just another way to keep the people down in the autocratic regimes that are sure to fall in the years to come.
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Not one Islamic country is democratic.
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My copy/paste from another thread:
If Muslims can demand to wear head-scarves/face veils in Europe, then we should also be able to consume alcohol in the Middle East. If we are not permitted, or limited and controlled, then this represents ultimate hypocrisy by the Arabs. Furthermore, if Muslims demand Western Civil liberties when in western countries, then Westerners should, in fairness, be permitted to eat and drink in public in Middle East countries during Ramadan. If not, double standards are being demanded / applied.
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If Muslims can demand to wear head-scarves/face veils in Europe, then we should also be able to consume alcohol in the Middle East. If we are not permitted, or limited and controlled, then this represents ultimate hypocrisy by the Arabs. Furthermore, if Muslims demand Western Civil liberties when in western countries, then Westerners should, in fairness, be permitted to eat and drink in public in Middle East countries during Ramadan. If not, double standards are being demanded / applied.
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Oh, I forgot...we're in the middle east!
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From: Michigan
Do you really think Pakistan, Banglesh and Alegeria are democratic? Pakistan is a failed state as we witnessed with bin Ladin. Bangleash can't even feed its people and who knows what Alegeria does.
I am reminded of the great Maggie Thachter back in the early 80's. Saudi using oil money wanted to spread the word of Islam and put mosques in western Europe. Thachter told the King of Saudi "when I hear church bells in Rhyiad you can put your mosque in London." We all know what has happened since with the 3rd world invasion and lack of leaders in the UK.
The islamicists need to look in the mirror. We in the west are the victims and we are playcading to the Arabs and their demands.
I am reminded of the great Maggie Thachter back in the early 80's. Saudi using oil money wanted to spread the word of Islam and put mosques in western Europe. Thachter told the King of Saudi "when I hear church bells in Rhyiad you can put your mosque in London." We all know what has happened since with the 3rd world invasion and lack of leaders in the UK.
The islamicists need to look in the mirror. We in the west are the victims and we are playcading to the Arabs and their demands.
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talking about the sun
.... talking about the sun: if you would like to calculate the sun's position in flight at any altitude - or if you'd like to know when the sun rises or sets during your flight - or if you'd like to calculate twilight start/end times (to inform passengers about imsak time in flight .... apple store: SuninFlight
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FACEE CHUS
LOL Sorry guys for the 3 questions that got you going. I was just being a bit facetious. Now on to Jetaim.
Dear Jetaim,
While i don't normally respond to such dimwit rants ( and you should know since you follow me around on here and I've never responded to your attacks before) let me make something clear.
No matter your opinion of my efforts to assist laborers in the UAE, it will continue and it is welcomed by many. Despite the power you think I have, I do not have the power to change the salaries, living conditions or working conditions.
You stated: " Even more you are a perfect example of the kind of people that in an effort to control the world population we should get rid off."
Should I be concerned ? Was that a personal threat?
You replied with: " remember ..the Sun is the center of the solar system....and among your ancestors there was definetly a monkey....though not a so bright one.."
You may want to tighten your own light bulb there sparky. You can't spell correctly and your grammar isn't any better.
And last but not least...
You reply with "Sassy go back to your tea party...and do us all a favor open your sassy pilot wives forum and leave us alone...or at least me.
Me leave you alone? Seriously ? I think you've got it backwards !
There is a huge difference in responding to someone's post on here, engaging in a debate and even having a disagreement. But when you are attempting to organize a smear campaign against someone, stalking them from thread to thread, you are making it personal. It became obvious after you came onto this thread posting from other threads diverting the issue here and attacking me. Not only in this thread, but others. I recommend it cease immediately.
If you have a personal issue with me, then take it there. Contact me directly. I've got bigger balls than you my dear, they're just attached to my chest
Dear Jetaim,
While i don't normally respond to such dimwit rants ( and you should know since you follow me around on here and I've never responded to your attacks before) let me make something clear.
No matter your opinion of my efforts to assist laborers in the UAE, it will continue and it is welcomed by many. Despite the power you think I have, I do not have the power to change the salaries, living conditions or working conditions.
You stated: " Even more you are a perfect example of the kind of people that in an effort to control the world population we should get rid off."
Should I be concerned ? Was that a personal threat?
You replied with: " remember ..the Sun is the center of the solar system....and among your ancestors there was definetly a monkey....though not a so bright one.."
You may want to tighten your own light bulb there sparky. You can't spell correctly and your grammar isn't any better.
And last but not least...
You reply with "Sassy go back to your tea party...and do us all a favor open your sassy pilot wives forum and leave us alone...or at least me.
Me leave you alone? Seriously ? I think you've got it backwards !
There is a huge difference in responding to someone's post on here, engaging in a debate and even having a disagreement. But when you are attempting to organize a smear campaign against someone, stalking them from thread to thread, you are making it personal. It became obvious after you came onto this thread posting from other threads diverting the issue here and attacking me. Not only in this thread, but others. I recommend it cease immediately.
If you have a personal issue with me, then take it there. Contact me directly. I've got bigger balls than you my dear, they're just attached to my chest
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Quote:
"Not one Islamic country is democratic."
"Oh, really? How about Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Banglaesh, Algeria and The Maldives. Some have even elected women Premiers, which has yet to happen in North America."
Don't forget Turkey is democratic and even had a female Prime Minister for a while as well.
"Not one Islamic country is democratic."
"Oh, really? How about Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan, Banglaesh, Algeria and The Maldives. Some have even elected women Premiers, which has yet to happen in North America."
Don't forget Turkey is democratic and even had a female Prime Minister for a while as well.
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Does anyone here have a problem with a Muslim fasting during a daylight flight to Europe? I recently went to the UK on the AM departure and the captain did not eat or drink all the way up to England. To top it off he was the pilot flying. So by the time we landed the fasting captain had gone almost 12 hours without any food or drink.
I was curious what the rules were. At the very least it is unsafe. I can't imagine what the lawyers would get out of Emirates moneytarlily if something did happen upon landing.
Also I thought if Muslims were traveling they did not have to fast. Dangerous concepts.
I was curious what the rules were. At the very least it is unsafe. I can't imagine what the lawyers would get out of Emirates moneytarlily if something did happen upon landing.
Also I thought if Muslims were traveling they did not have to fast. Dangerous concepts.
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Indeed; you'll have your a**e kicked severely for turning up at work with even a trace alcohol (rightly so) but to fly an aeroplane in probably a worse state after a 12 hour fast is deemed acceptable. The world has gone mad; wonder what the UK CAA would think, knowing that aircraft are flying into the UK crewed by people in that state?
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The world has gone mad; wonder what the UK CAA would think, knowing that aircraft are flying into the UK crewed by people in that state?
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Great reply Sassy
You show a level of intelligence that Jatiem can only dream about
Unfortunately there are too many morons who get on this site, speil a bunch of crap and show themselves up for the fools they really are.
You show a level of intelligence that Jatiem can only dream about
Unfortunately there are too many morons who get on this site, speil a bunch of crap and show themselves up for the fools they really are.
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From: Dubai
I lived here for over 2 years..it simple..resect their local culture or leave!!! you are a guest if you disagrea with their local rules too bad dont mess it up for the rest of us who are part of the community and have great relations with the locals. Since I am a Christian these same people love to celebrate my American Thanksgiving and Christmas with me, try to enjoy there special holiday with them it builds great bridegs..